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Tomescu 29th Jul 2015 19:34

The object in the picture doesn't look like 5 m long. More like 2 m. I was thinking maybe it's part of the elevator.

etudiant 29th Jul 2015 19:35

Seems rather that the authorities would be able to take a bow, as this debris would support their working hypothesis of a resting place somewhere in the Indian Ocean. Does not help find the rest of the plane, but validates the Intelsat calculations.

Niner Lima Charlie 29th Jul 2015 19:38

One report said it had a "reference number" on the item, BB670. Maybe a number from the part ID plate?

olasek 29th Jul 2015 19:58

I don't think this one piece would be enough to suggest anything.

Aidan Monaghan 29th Jul 2015 20:04

Flap Damage
 
Based on the damage to the edge of the flap in the following picture (and because the apparent flap is the only piece of recovered wreckage), it seems the flap may have been extended when it made contact with the water. Did a controlled landing on the water take place?

http://blog-peuravion.fr/wp-content/...4-12589277.png

hamster3null 29th Jul 2015 20:15


Originally Posted by MG23 (Post 9062684)
Based purely on rough approximations from pictures of 777s, it looks about the right size to me. The flaperon appears to cover less than 1/10 of the length of the wing, which puts it under 3m long.

Also, from the damage, it would presumably have to be composite rather than metal? That might eliminate some other possibilities.

OK, I got mixed up. The inboard flap is 5 m long, the flaperon (piece FCC here http://www.ainonline.com/sites/defau...s/777xwind.jpg) is indeed under 3 m and the right size for the piece of wreckage they found.

jcjeant 29th Jul 2015 20:32

Hi,

http://i.imgur.com/CuRFrx8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Zyh72MC.png

What you want more ? seems clear ....

Regards.

roninmission 29th Jul 2015 20:40

Serial Numbers and other identifying marks are not really necessary are they? If the part is conclusively identified as from a 777 then it has to be MH370, there are no other relevant hull losses. Some news outlets are stating that Boeing personnel are on their way to Reunion, which would not be happening if there had been any definite evidence excluding MH370. But anybody want to take a bet that if it is from a 777, within hours there'll be suggestions that it was intentionally planted?

RatherBeFlying 29th Jul 2015 20:47

Seems consistent with flap down controlled ditching. Mind you AF447 rudder was found in similar condition.

Will it be possible to backtrack the currents to narrow the search area?

TURIN 29th Jul 2015 20:54


The piece looks way too short to be a flaperon from a B777. From the second photo in Telegraph article, it's at most 2.5 m long. B777's inboard flap is at least 5 m long. Either it got snapped in half (doubtful, since both edges look straight), or it's not from a 777.
The flaperon on a 777 is an inboard (IE high speed) aileron. Not a high lift device such as a flap. Its called a flaperon because when flaps are selected down it droops with the flaps but can still modulate up and down to control roll.

That looks like a flaperon to me, and unless there are more missing 777s that we don't know about. Its a good bet its from MH370.

AirLandSeaMan 29th Jul 2015 21:04

B777 flaperon or aileron part?
 
The various photos of the piece found appear to show a part more rectangular than a 777 flaperon. The part also appears to be slightly tapered, unlike a flaperon. Maybe it is part of the outer aileron.

vapilot2004 29th Jul 2015 21:12

If this turns out to be true, it is big news. Finally a trace is found.

A worrying theory that has not been widely publicized, came from US (and other's) intelligence suggesting the aircraft was stolen and was awaiting future use as a part of a terrorist plot. This discovery could allay those fears, particularly if, with newfound resolve, redoubled efforts result in locating the missing aircraft.

sockfocksAP 29th Jul 2015 21:15

very likely 777 flaperon
 
The engineering drawings put the length of the flaperon at 7 feet. It is tapered from narrow at INBD end to wider at O/B end. The data plate which would have the serial number is missing from the INBD end of flaperon. The composite design uses several parts and fasteners plus nutplates. There should be visible part numbers once some panels can be removed. The entire trailing edge wedge of the flaperon is missing. This is the R/H flaperon.

Pinkman 29th Jul 2015 21:20


If I was a betting man.. I would be putting my money on South African Airways Flight 295
It would not be. I saw part of an engine cowling from the Helderberg that drifted ashore some eighteen months after it went down off Mauritius (next island to Reunion) and washed up in Natal, South Africa. It already had barnacles and other marine growth on it from its journey across the Indian Ocean. After 30 years - no way.

JohanB 29th Jul 2015 21:23

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...s_3391693b.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...r_3391483b.jpg

Very obvious a B777 flaperon (the smaller one, not downfolded, in the middle on the photo below)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...psBrake777.JPG

D Bru 29th Jul 2015 21:31

very likely 777
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=BE&v=qvQSllUyti0
see from 0:37

OleOle 29th Jul 2015 21:38

Drift of buoys since march 8th 2014
 
Doesn't seem to help much.

Ship Status Report: callsign 56568: ? sailwx.info
http://s27.postimg.org/mb5q0m1xf/55b942a3_3236_19e.png

Buoy 53592 ? sailwx.info
http://s10.postimg.org/9a6edgfh5/55b94389_5d4c_af.png

shaun.s 29th Jul 2015 21:43


What is the source of the drawings being used to declare it a 777 part? I've seen two different drawings, one for each side, but no source to confirm someone didn't draw them based on what they see in the pictures.
rz3 - They are AMM / AIPC drawings for the 777. They are authentic, and they match the photographs very closely.

europaflyer 29th Jul 2015 22:01

Marine growth accumulates surprisingly quickly. If anything, this seems fairly clean for something that is supposed to have been in the water for over a year. It is certainly not debris from some long past accident.

Acklington 29th Jul 2015 22:08

If the piece is confirmed as part of MH370, a study of the sea life, that have attached themselves, might provide some further clues.


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