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Speed_Alive_V1 29th Jul 2015 09:09

Runway Incursion LSGG
 
Aer Lingus flight forced to swerve in take-off to avoid jet | Irish Examiner

Cessna Citation taxied onto active with departing A320 on take off roll

"“Speedbird 726, go around, I repeat go around, traffic has interfered on the runway,” the controller said.

When the British Airways crew acknowledged the “go around” instruction, the controller informed them: “There is an Airbus A320 [Aer Lingus] which has just fortunately departed without any problems.”

The controller then contacted the Aer Lingus flight, asking: “Are you okay?” The Aer Lingus crew replied: “Affirm, we had enough room to take a right around the traffic but luckily we were okay, yes.”"

Straighten Up 29th Jul 2015 14:11

Fresh trousers please! 😨

atakacs 2nd Aug 2015 19:43

Runway Incursion LSGG
 
Bit worried by this statement: "he controller then contacted the Aer Lingus flight, asking: “Are you okay?” The Aer Lingus crew replied: “Affirm, we had enough room to take a right around the traffic but luckily we were okay, yes.”
Sounds like a very close call

CaptainProp 6th Aug 2015 12:47

Surprised we haven't heard more about this?!

CP

PPRuNeUser0183 11th Aug 2015 14:52

Sounds like a very close call. Bravo to the Aer Lingus crew

Not-a_Pilot 12th Aug 2015 22:18

If I understood the ATC conversation correctly, the Citation was told to hold short of the active runway. The runway incursion is at 3:15 on the recording.

The controller recovered her composure very quickly after the event, though she definitely sounded rattled - understandably!

jmmoric 13th Aug 2015 02:02

Makes you wonder what goes on in the cockpit sometimes? Are the pilots in a hurry, are they lost, is their mindset on another task than taxi'ing (checklists and so on). Fortunately it's not a common thing to have a runway incursion (if you look at it compared to the number of aircrafts that actually hold short of runways, or even get a clarification that they were actually allowed to line up/cross when they get close). But it's nasty anyway.

Maybe we need spikes at the holding points, so they get a flat tire if they cross :E

Hopefully someone talked a bit to the crew/controller afterwards, just to make sure they were okay.

Basil 13th Aug 2015 19:38


Hopefully someone talked a bit to the crew/controller afterwards, just to make sure they were okay.
No-one ever talked to me after an incident to ask if I was OK ;)

eastern wiseguy 13th Aug 2015 20:29

Certainly in NATS there is a procedure for "defusing" staff after an incident. As a watch manager I would have removed the controller from the position and a trained (peer) counsellor would have been available to offer support.

On the face of it this sounds like a very serious incident and I do hope the Swiss have something in place.

My concern would be the state of mind of the flight crew who are left with the remainder of the sector to complete.

LookingForAJob 13th Aug 2015 21:17

Serious answer - in the ATC world, CISM is quite widely used, at least in the European region.


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