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GeneralFlyer 17th Jul 2015 11:33

B777 Compartment door
 
Came across this:

Compartment door of Boeing 777 crashed through factory roof in China

Is this possible? Why would the aircraft not experience any difficulty over such a thing?

Jet Jockey A4 18th Jul 2015 00:25

Simple!

Not all things that are attached or part of an aircraft are going to make an aircraft "fall out" of the sky if they separate from the aircraft even an engine can rip off an aircraft and it will still fly... Isn't that amazing!

DaveReidUK 18th Jul 2015 06:18

"China's aviation authority confirmed the metal plate was part of a Boeing 777 passenger aircraft, most likely part of a landing gear compartment door."

So they know it's from a 777 (how?) but they haven't been able to identify positively which door/panel it actually is?

Hmmm.

lomapaseo 18th Jul 2015 13:16

Stuff that falls off is rarely identified as belonging to a specific aircraft as nobody wants to open themselves up to damage claims.

The loss of the part itself becomes part of a record to the regulator but not the exact trajectory.

I've seen stuff weighing 500 pounds or more recovered but not linked to a specific aircraft. On the other hand I've seen stuff that was identified not being released by the finder except for a whole lot of money. Of course that doesn't stop investigators from examining it in situ :)

Hotel Tango 18th Jul 2015 13:35

Wouldn't it have a part number? And could the a/c it belonged to not be identified through the manufacturer? Just asking.

superq7 18th Jul 2015 13:37


So they know it's from a 777 (how?) but they haven't been able to identify positively which door/panel it actually is?
The panel will have a part no on it, and I bet the airline hasn't noticed it's missing yet.

superq7 18th Jul 2015 13:44

HT we both posted at the same time, if it's just a panel it will have a part no but that won't point to the airline, other more important items i.e. actuators for example carry a serial no which is logged to the particular aircraft and it's log book, i.e. 'lifed items' Stuart.

Piltdown Man 18th Jul 2015 13:46

Negative safety before your eyes
 

...the airline involved would be given an official warning...
Stop things from falling from your aircraft. You have been warned. Pay attention!

What on earth will such puerile action achieve? No operator wants anything to fall from their aircraft. To be told that something has fallen from your aircraft is worthwhile. But the above sounds like the precursor to punitive action - something that will persuade operators to deny all responsibility at all costs and start obliterating evidence.

PM

Hotel Tango 18th Jul 2015 14:37

Ah OK, thanks superq7.

DaveReidUK 19th Jul 2015 06:35

A/c reportedly Air France 777-300ER F-GSQF.

Terry McCassey 19th Jul 2015 07:20

. . . There's a part number there for them if they want !

mary meagher 19th Jul 2015 07:31

And assuming that what has fallen from an aircraft on approach is the body of a stowaway, who then is liable?

olandese_volante 20th Jul 2015 11:05


even an engine can rip off an aircraft and it will still fly
If the engine comes off clean, maybe yes. But usually they don't, and cause severe damage to the airframe in the process, see El Al 1862 as a textbook example.

DirtyProp 20th Jul 2015 11:12


Originally Posted by mary meagher (Post 9051203)
And assuming that what has fallen from an aircraft on approach is the body of a stowaway, who then is liable?

Airport security, I presume...

gwillie 20th Jul 2015 15:07


A/c reportedly Air France 777-300ER F-GSQF.
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http://avherald.com/img/afr_b773_f-g...i_150713_1.jpg


On Jul 19th 2015 Boeing identified the main gear panel as belonging to Air France's Boeing 777-300 registration F-GSQF which had departed Shanghai as flight AF-111. The part does not belong to the gear structure itsself but to the mechanism that opens and closes the gear doors. The incident is treated with utmost concern and urgency, a service bulletin has already been released and the changes have already been implemented in the production line of Boeing 777s.

Incident: Air France B773 at Shanghai on Jul 13th 2015, dropped gear panel
........

VNAV PATH 20th Jul 2015 15:14

SB
 
Service Bulletin released in may 2007.

Momoe 21st Jul 2015 06:11

Air France not implementing A/D's in a timely manner, where have I heard that before?

_Phoenix 21st Jul 2015 13:16

Yes, AF447. Pilot error...
Was the landing gear retracted timely?

Golden Rivet 21st Jul 2015 13:26

Boeing call it a PDA event...

Parts departing airplane.

_Phoenix 21st Jul 2015 14:20

I guess other guy must call this event RDA, flights 961 587, again maintenance and pilot errors


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