You can repeat your question as often as you want but no professional aviator with any sense will give you answers to questions involving security measures - being blunt there is a principle called "need to know" and in this case you don't "need to know".

If you insist on conflating this with the elderly pax: severe credibility probs with the media reports, done to death elsewhere on Pprune.

Nonsense, it's common knowledge. You can check this yourself - as pax - quite easily by sitting within sight of the front of the cabin at a time when a crew-member takes a comfort break.:ok:

You're free to find out. Just do not ask us to say it. :)

Nemrytter - you're not wrong but as someone once said: "You might say that, I can't possibly comment :E :ok:

Seriously though, and just to clarify matters for the sake of A320ECAM ......

For good reason most (?all) companies have a blanket prohibition (on pain of dismissal) on staff discussing security matters with e.g. non employees and others outside the organisation.

Depends if you count the 2 person rule as a security measure or as a passenger comfort/reassurance measure.:}

I cannot believe that the AVH would give the father of Lubitz time considering what Lubitz did?

The moment the plane lost RT, the French should have sent up two F-16s to check what was going on in the flight deck. Had they seen Lubitz alive and conscious, then that would shut Lubitz' ignorant and unapologetic father up once and for all!

Leaving aside reaction time you might want to have a look at the French Air Force orbat.

In any event as I recall it at the time reports were they were pretty quick to react but no way they could intercept in time to observe events unravelling.

No F-16 in french airforce.

One Mirage was sent at 09:48, airbus crashed at 09:41 UTC....

I agree with point 1 - AvH is losing the plot by allowing the father time and space to voice his doubts as to the heinous and criminal act his son carried out.

The second point is unnecessary - after all, the data from the FDR is very clear what happened. The son didn't just 'play with the selected altitude' and become unconscious, he was adjusting the target speed as the aircraft descended. Had the father's claims held any truth, the son could have returned the target altitude back to a safe level, rather than repeatedly turning the target speed ever higher.

As the last movement of the speed control knob happened more than 4 minutes after the altitude was selected to 100 feet, it was clear that Lubitz knew what he was doing, the father should shut up and think of the families of the victims......

Steve, I fully agree. Especially with regard what Lubitz did on the incoming flight to BCN, check my post of April 4th.

Cheers

The problem is, the father could point to that recording and say

'see, he did that on the previous flight, the a/p altitude knob was something he always played with when the other crew member was out of the cockpit'

and try to use it as proof the son never intentionally crashed the aircraft because in the previous flight, the turning to 100 feet had made no difference; unfortunately - so is the probable reasoning of Lubitz Senior - on the return flight his son became incapacitated after he had adjusted the altitude to 100 feet, hence the plane crashed.

The fact that he wasn't incapacitated enough to stop continually modifying the target airspeed over the next 4 minutes hasn't yet registered with this ill-informed and crassly insensitive father - but I can live in hope that he eventually reads this and understands how much anger he is causing families of the victims by his refusal to accept the truth.

Yes Steve, but it's not Andreas father, it's the journo T.v.B. who is arguing that way, payed by G.Lubitz.

Doesn't matter.... Whoever pays for the piper, determines the music being played.

Exactly Steve.

I'm wondering also why AvHerald is so keen about 4u9525.... I mean the owner of that site went to Berlin to visit the press conference. Can't remember any other case where he did that.

And it wasn't about fumes....:O

Simon attended the BEA press conference for the final report on AF447, for example. And he didn't make the trip to Berlin just to hear Günter Lubitz talk, but he was in town for a few days anyway - at least that's what he says (4th paragraph in the avherald article).

I can understand that the part about the possibly defective door keypad got his attention, and that he asked BEA for more information about it:
And I find their response kind of disappointing:
But then again, maybe he shouldn't have submitted a whole catalog of no less than 25 questions about all kinds of weird topics brought up at the press conference, including gems like "Is the BEA aware that there are 4 different versions of the CVR transcript?" :ugh:

No, he did not go to Berlin to be at the press conference, as far as I know that trip was scheduled a very long time before it was known to happen. He apparently decided to visit it as he was there anyway and had the time to do it.

Why AVH is keen on the story he has answered more than clearly. Like many of us the Herald staff seem to find that there are a lot of unanswered questions which need addressing, some of them quite pressing ones such as the keypad issue and generally the conduct of that investigation. That is reason enough to keep looking at it.

This is a pilot's father trying do defend the family or similar in formation flight with some "investigative" journalist with some non proven suspicions. So far okay but nothing to bring forward the topic itself. Shouldn't we wait for actual news to come up? Apologies but I don't care that much about the FO family's PR.

What is it about the conduct of the investigation that makes you repeatedly say that ?

The BEA knew from the start that, because of the particular circumstances of the crash, every word they published would be subject to intense scrutiny and, on the whole, the investigation report reflects that (including a detailed discussion of the CDLS as applicable to the airframe in question)..

Runs in the family ?
 

Mental illness ?
Lack of understanding of what goes on and accepting it.
As father, as son we say in Norway.
A total lack of understanding how things work, and how to behave.

This :mad: Andreas is a mass murderer and a traitor to his country and his profession.
3 independent investigations say so.
Andreas was a rotten egg, and his Father knew he was a Coo Coo.
His inaction and his sons action has made a mess.

He could have stopped him, he did not.
He should not attack others, for telling the truth.

Question:

Is it possible to turn the ALT SEL knob on A 320 from 38.000 ft to 100 ft within one second?