TransAsia in the water?
 

Taiwanese news channel showing footage of an ATR72 in the water off the end of the runway. Not sure where exactly.
40 rescued. 12 still on board.

Check out a few tweets on twitter. EFATO? Note the difference in pitch of the #1 and #2 props

https://twitter.com/RodrigoEBR/statu...945920/photo/1

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/st...24183097614336

Check this out...https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...01a70158d6e4c3

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/...0e&oe=556C8871

News are saying there are 10 still trapped majority survived...

It's come out from SungShan Airport (TSA) taking off towards the east and then landed about 4km away from the end of the runway somewhere around here:

25.064216° 121.613841°

I work around 3km from there and can not exactly place it from the pictures but it's certainly in that region +/- a 100m or so.

Update - the resting place is 500m ESE of the coords above.

Live streaming of the rescue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8GmxMGCDh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJKnDLYZz4

Looks like it departed via the MUCHA TWO DEP http://eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/history/...hics/86114.pdf

Someone recorded the last seconds of the flight inside a car on the motorway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MMzCwzXMQY

Domestic passenger flight crashes in Taiwan with 58 people aboard

Map of Taiwan locating a passenger plane crash on February 4, 2015
A passenger plane with 58 people on board plunged into a river outside Taiwan's capital Taipei on Wednesday, with 17 people rescued and dozens trapped inside, according to television reports.
The TransAsia ATR 72-600 turboprop plane was on a domestic flight when it hit a road bridge before ploughing into the river, the reports said. Rescuers were trying to reach the trapped passengers.
Television images showed rescuers standing on large sections of broken wreckage trying to pull passengers out of the plane with ropes. Those who were rescued -- including two children -- were put in dinghies and taken to the shore.
Some were then loaded on stretchers and all 17 rescued have been taken to hospital, reports said.
Officials at Taiwanese emergency services were not immediately available to comment.
The accident happened just before 11:00 am (0300 GMT), a few minutes after the plane took off from Taipei's Songshan airport en route to the island of Kinmen.
Last July 48 people were killed after another domestic TransAsia flight crashed onto houses during a storm on the Taiwanese island of Penghu.

Strait Times reports: The crash happened shortly after the plane took off from Songshan Airport in Taipei and was suspected to be due to insufficient propelling force, according to United Daily News.

The pilot of flight GE235 radioed a "Mayday, Mayday" distress call shortly before the crash, but did not respond when air traffic controllers answered, the report said.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/rc...2015-0230Z.mp3
it declared mayday with engine flame out at 23:25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8GmxMGCDh4

LIVE telecast from the scene. They showed a lot of people getting luggage out of the back section but the front section remained submerged. Some divers are working the front section of the aircraft. But the passengers in that section of the plane are believed to have died. Some 30 remain missing and are believed to be in the front of the aircraft according to the spokesman.

The spokesman further said that they are waiting for cranes to lift the front part of the aircraft.

28 people were rescued but at least 12 are DOA at the hospital. Two were children and 25 were adults. The children are believed to be alive.
Of the 12 dead, 6 of them were found drifting down the river , away from the fuselage.



Currently awaiting heavy lift cranes to lift the front fuselage. Some passengers believed to be still trapped in the back section as well. They are trying to free them.

One more person rescued from fuselage but DOA, bringing the count up to 29 persons pulled from the wreckage .

Helicopters searching downstream for any signs of more bodies. Unsure how many are still trapped in the front and how many are drifting down river.

edit: they plan to lift the fuselage. A large crane has arrived on scene.
Divers said visibility under water is very bad and they do not want to enter the fuselage (with good reason).

A net has been set up downstream to catch any bodies flowing past.

looks like the person/people in the yellow vehicle in front of the camera car were in the wrong place at the wrong time

A better view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BIsUCQEv_8

It looks like the ATR fell fast while remaining wings level, until a wing dropped as it crossed the bridge. The aircraft seemed to have already stalled before the wing drop.

Initial speculation: Double engine failure? Even with autofeather failed I can't see how it can fall like a rock while remaining wings level.

Less than a year since TransAsia's last hull loss
 

TransAsia Airways Flight 222 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but are probably feeling quite fortunate to have survived ...

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8-Uj7MIMAEGkoD.jpg

The guys in the taxi (yellow car that was clipped) are okay according to the local news.

Something else is that I am not sure it clipped any bridges at all. In that area there are a couple of elevated highways that run pretty much long the sides of the river and it looks like it clipped the one on the south bank. The bridges across the river I think were all missed.

So it looks like the plane flew down the river line, clipped one of the elevated highways along side the river (probably the South one) and then crashed into the river close to the NanHu bridge - which is a bit lucky because there is a metro bridge next to that bridge and if it had hit either then it would have been much worse with possibly a metro train falling 20m into the river.

If you use google earth to go to
25.063120° 121.611826° and then enter street view from the top of the bridge you can see the highways both to the N and S of the river and then the metro bridge a few meters to the East, The plane is approx 800m to the east of this bridge even though there is a plot of the planes route putting it crashing to the west of the bridge. (There are a bunch of traffic webcams in the area and I can see it on one of them).

The 4th ATR accident resulting in fatalities for Transasia

Looks like he tried for a Sully, in the one place not covered with buildings (the river) and just didn't have the speed or altitude to quite make it.

Ugly situation...

TransAsia in the water?
 

That there are survivors is just amazing...

Yes as TWT said, media claiming 4th ATR72 crash for this airline and the last one was just last year, not good.

Reviewing the pictures several times I got the perception that the tail might have hit the top of the building and than the plane bank sharply

Clearer video clip here
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJNAx4BsUtE

just saw footage on Channel 10 news in BNE.


Reporter said aircraft hit a taxi on freeway before hitting freeway 7 crashing into river.


She went onto say that aircraft had just taken off from TPE & was headed to Taiwan !!! Obviously failed geography at school.

TransAsia in the water?
 

Or the pilot banked to avoid the road?

TransAsia in the water?
 

I know nothing about ATR procedures and it could be normal but how long after takeoff as the aircraft appears to be flaps up??

Point of collision with the elevated road using co-ordinates from the dashcam in post #24

https://goo.gl/maps/bErFP

Im with Mike. Either about to enter a secondary stall, or knowing it's about to be over, banking hard left to avoid cars.

a similar type our flaps stay at 7 until 1500 feet and accelerate a to VSER

Pictures from the live stream showing the orange black boxes (2) in the back of a station wagon.

Live Stream -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=T8GmxMGCDh4

ATR doesn't have a roll rate anything like that.

Flaps come up at white bug, roughly 20kts above V2 after the climb sequence is done and dusted.. Say 1000-1500ft very roughly.

http://i.imgur.com/wazEJzJ.png

Given the map posted, it does seem he was trying to get it hard left and over the road to ditch it but lost too much altitude/ had too much bank?

Looks to me that they hit Vmca.

There is no way there is control at the latter stages, they are not trying to avoid bridges or buildings the last few seconds over the bridge the aircraft was completely out of control

If that is the location, looks a fair way off the centre line of the runway. I can only assume he was in trouble almost immediately & was heading for the river....then he was too high before the bridge (Sanchong Rd) & too low after...

Looking at the photos i think the LH engine is feathered, hard to say but the flap looks like it is at its takeoff setting.

Below is the Google streetview of the point of impact with the road. On the left is a light pole which was removed by the aircraft as it came down.

What's more interesting is the high voltage lines running across above. Could this be the reason for the sharp bank to avoid those wires?

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@25.0...pIYA!2e0?hl=en

Note: the high voltage powerlines are not show in the satellite view only the streetview.

You can't roll an ATR that fast with control inputs alone. It just won't do it.

From the pictures and the reports of a mayday call it could be a left engine failure and subsequent stall and wing drop. The direction of the roll and wingdrop would tie in with the left engine failure theory. As for the stall, there could be a myriad of reasons.

StormyKnight,it's the other carriageway to the east,cars heading NW (ish)

Streetview here: https://goo.gl/maps/wYHxO

Aircraft passed just behind the overhead crossbar

TransAsia in water.
 

Are 58 souls a full load for this aircraft?