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flying lid 31st Dec 2014 18:26

No wheels on my wagon !!
 
Incident: American B763 at Rio de Janeiro on Dec 30th 2014, blew all right main tyres on landing and taxied to gate

Incident: American B763 at Rio de Janeiro on Dec 30th 2014, blew all right main tyres on landing and taxied to gate


An American Airlines Boeing 767-300, registration N380AN performing flight AA-251 (dep Dec 29th) from Dallas Ft. Worth,TX (USA) to Rio de Janeiro,RJ (Brazil), landed on Galeao Antonio Carlos Jobim International Airport's runway 15 but blew all 4 right main gear tyres. The aircraft did not stop but taxied to the gate at high engine power with smoke trailing the right main gear. Runway, taxiway and apron surfaces received scratches.

Video of taxi & photo of right main gear.

GAPSTER 31st Dec 2014 19:06

I'd be very interested in the ATC input....I'm sort of assuming there wasn't any.I was trained always to keep an eye on the wheels on touchdown for evidence of a tyre burst.....and over the years have seen a few.

evansb 31st Dec 2014 19:37

Why stop on the runway? No fire visible. Taxied at high power? Doubt it.

Airbubba 31st Dec 2014 19:47

Wonder how the brake temps looked? :confused:


The aircraft did not stop but taxied to the gate at high engine power with smoke trailing the right main gear.
Sounds like a Marine gear up landing joke.


Taxied at high power? Doubt it.
Check out the video in the link from the original poster.

Nopax,thanx 31st Dec 2014 19:49


Why stop on the runway? No fire visible. Taxied at high power? Doubt it.
Because if you taxy on flats you will wreck four good wheels, and possibly the brakes as well. Your P45 would be waiting for you on disembarkation.

fireflybob 31st Dec 2014 19:50

" I thought she was pulling to the right a bit..."

evansb 31st Dec 2014 19:51

Seen two in my career. Neither one stopped on the runway. Neither crew were fired. Both incidents were at an aerodrome with a single runway and a single taxiway. The airport would have been closed for, oh, about a day had the pilots stopped their aircraft on the runway.

ShyTorque 31st Dec 2014 19:52


Why stop on the runway?
Rubber doesn't scratch the concrete/tarmac but metal rims do once the rubber's gone. Anyone got a spare set of wheels?

Airbubba 1st Jan 2015 00:15

Wheels, tires and brakes. Hopefully no more than a couple million in repairs.

etudiant 1st Jan 2015 02:02

If the tires blew on landing, the wheels and brakes would be toast in any case, so might as well drag the airframe off the runway.
That way the disruption is minimized at the cost of some scraped concrete.

DJ77 1st Jan 2015 07:55

Grooved runways are better anyway in rainy weather.

ACMS 1st Jan 2015 09:46

What the hell??? You must be kidding me????

Move off the runway perhaps ( if it's needed as a single runway ) but taxy to the gate......

The mind boggles :mad:

RAT 5 1st Jan 2015 10:51

However; to the point. How did 4 tyres burst? Was this an extremely strong right foot, but then there are auto brakes. Was this a mechanical cause?

ACMS 1st Jan 2015 11:00

He is damn lucky the tires didn't puncture the lower wing causing a fuel leak........fuel.....hot brakes/wheels........:\:eek:

What a goose, sorry but I've got to say it.....:=

You can't tell me he didn't know....

Nialler 1st Jan 2015 12:09

As a passenger I was involved in one landing where there was a blowout. Everybody in the cabin knew about it. There was a hung bang associated with it as well as a minor tremor through the cabin. We were swiftly surrounded by fire trucks etc.

There was no problem; the extra attention seemed purely precautionary and we deplaned normally after a discussion between the pilot and a safety guy at the top of the steps.

It was very very noticeable, though.

susier 1st Jan 2015 12:17

Might sound stupid but do we know for sure they didn't blow on take off?

oceancrosser 1st Jan 2015 13:28


Originally Posted by evansb (Post 8804875)
Seen two in my career. Neither one stopped on the runway. Neither crew were fired. Both incidents were at an aerodrome with a single runway and a single taxiway. The airport would have been closed for, oh, about a day had the pilots stopped their aircraft on the runway.

Certainly not applicable here. 2 runways, plenty of taxiways and hardstands closer to the rwy. Must have really felt it.

glendalegoon 1st Jan 2015 13:55

does it occur to any of you that the pilots simply didn't know they had blown all four tires (yes tires)?


long way from front end of the 767 to the main gear.

in this case did anyone OUTSIDE the plane radio: hey, you blew all your tires

RAT 5 1st Jan 2015 14:09

This would have caused a large tilt angle right and a lot of left tiller.

ULMFlyer 1st Jan 2015 14:50

Additional pictures of the damage (including to the underside of the wing) can be found here.

Cheers.


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