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Basil 23rd Aug 2014 20:23

Qonewheelfinals,

Well, I'm not a pilot - so dismiss me if you like
Well, you DID say it ;)

Toon Boy 23rd Aug 2014 22:40

Why not distil this to an potential AAIB report finding. If this had resulted in fatalities.
Where do you hide the ovbious conclusions?
This is about political correctness.
How long before we are required to have blind bus drivers?
I am not being unkind, mearly questioning the rational of our social perspectave and the exposures that arise.
In a perverse way, this counters the health and safety culchure which sees to take us the other way.

frankice 24th Aug 2014 10:27

We should realize that this is a extraordinary event, this guy has two 'hands' on the controls during normal operation, one on the yoke, the other on the throttle, that's why the authority declared him fit to fly, he just forgot to buckle up his prostethic arm, a mishap, I want to remember that a mishap can happen to any pilot.

DaveReidUK 24th Aug 2014 10:29


he just forgot to buckle up his prostethic arm
Idiotic post.

Pace 24th Aug 2014 10:46

Frankice

If he failed to go around because he was unable to go around or because the FO was not briefed to take control or allowed to take control then there are issues which need to be addressed so that there cannot be a recurrence of the event.

If he landed on a wing and a prayer then he was lucky the landing completed without damage.

either way it does not appear that missing an arm at such a crucial state of the flight allowed him to be fully in control. He was lucky this time and i am sure measures have already been taken to make sure that any unlikely future occurrence will be handled in a different way.

Of course he should not be stopped from flying! All indications are that he is a competent and good pilot but procedures unique to him will have to be put in place for the future.

My Seneca pilot an able bodied pilot was literally mentally disabled by being a passenger to the well known wheel breaking Seneca porpoise. His was a sharp lesson and i am sure he will never make that mistake again and the same goes with this physically disabled pilot

stiglet 24th Aug 2014 11:16

If this pilot had been born without a lower forearm would the decision as to whether to grant him a licence or not been different? Or was the decision made because he already had a commercial pilots licence? If this was the case was his personal abilities and characteristics taken into consideration? I can see a precedent being set here.

frankice 24th Aug 2014 12:32

Pace,
you're right, there are issues which need to be addressed, I'm sure that the authority has already taken measures to make sure that any unlikely future occurrence will not happen.

barit1 25th Aug 2014 19:27

Sir Douglas Robert Steuart Bader of the RAF has already been mentioned here. And on this side of the pond, race pilot Benny Howard also lost a leg - and got a punctured lung - when his racer threw a prop blade. He went on to excel as a test pilot for Douglas Aircraft.

He never retired, but died of emphysema in 1970 - a heavy smoker.

BuzzB 21st Sep 2014 17:05

If I am not mistaken I believe this guy actualy lost his arm in a crash following a collision with a yacht mast whilst flying a light twin about 15 to 20 years ago in Australia.

ExSimGuy 21st Sep 2014 17:10

Collision?
 
A light aircraft collided with a yacht? Was he flying very low, or was the yacht airborne ??*^&!

BuzzB 21st Sep 2014 17:17

The incident I am referring to allegedly involved a low pass that went wrong for unknown reason......Would be interesting to read the report if anyone could point to it.

rmiller774 22nd Sep 2014 02:38

Pilot with artificial arm = one more hole in the cheese.

Spotlight 22nd Sep 2014 02:47

Ahh, the yacht collision! A long time ago now. From memory it was a Beech Baron, location Western Australia.

WingNut60 22nd Sep 2014 03:35

Hit the mast
 
Unless my memory fails me (and it does, from time to time) the incident was in Yampi Sound north of Derby WA and the pilot lost his arm while ditching.
I think the incident had something to do with opening the door prior to ditching and then his arm was guillotined by the door.

I thought that it was an Islander operated by Aerial Enterprises but would not swear to that being true.

Ironically, at the North-West tip of Yampi Sound is the community of One-Arm Point

Croqueteer 22nd Sep 2014 07:26

Hitting a yacht mast isn't too low, I've looked up at a submarine conning tower from a Shackleton.:O

BuzzB 22nd Sep 2014 08:26

Yes I thought it was an Islander too.........
Did the accident report make any comment on what was the cause of the accident ?
Were there fatalities?

Deep and fast 22nd Sep 2014 11:03

Come on guys, don't make it personal

JohnFTEng 22nd Sep 2014 11:22

Red Arrows hit yacht mast - Brighton(??) about 1979/80 - lost outer 2ft of wing and crucially aileron - led to a/c loss.

MrSnuggles 22nd Sep 2014 15:04

@JohnFTEng

I believe this is what you are referring to? --> Red Arrows: A dramatic incident | Royal Air Force | Armed Forces | Topics | My Brighton and Hove

No mention of the nationality of this pilot but I would guess he was British, at least when the crash occurred.

The one-armed gentleman in question is probably Australian.

Or did I miss something here?

BuzzB 18th Oct 2014 08:07

http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/27034/aair198900237.pdf

Link to the the Austrailian accident investigation report.

Shocking reading, particularly as the pilot declined to give any reasons for the accident. Reference is made to poor judgment and carrying out an unauthorised manouveur which saw the aircraft crash into the sea following a low pass over a boat.

So ....Question....assuming this is one and the same guy which I have reason to believe it is.

What was he doing on the flight deck of a Flybe aircraft in the first place?


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