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Zoner 21st May 2002 05:15

Considering that LH has been operating LAX-AKL with the MD-11F for Air New Zealand for some time now, how could they not approve of this?:confused:

chippy63 21st May 2002 06:12

Thanks, konkordski!:)

wonderbusdriver 21st May 2002 11:46

No pilot at LH was furloughed after 911.

The FEs at LH-pax are in negotiations about severance, but since they´re bringing back the 742s, they might even fly again.

The furloughed contract-FEs at LH-Cargo were reinstated after intervention by the union.

Besides that... DLH is testing the waters for the BJ concept and DUS might just be the market.
LH currently does not have an A319 configured for this sort of business and the old 340-200s are being used elswhere.
Several A320s are still in storage - since the 1st quarter of last year, due to lack of crews (and FL: quit whining about the entry requirements - if you were "in", you´d have no problem at all with them, right?!)

The contract allows up to 6% of the SKO (seat kms offered) as LH-flights to be "outsourced".

Has anyone ever wondered, why Cityline (LH CRJ and Avro RJ operator) pilots managed to get one of the best contracts in the world for "regionals" a few weeks ago - without having to go on strike?...

Who will operate all those Dornier jets if/when they come as ordered by DLH??

Will the 70+ seat scope clause be questioned again??

Will two 742 freighters be sold and leased back to be operated by Air Atlanta, at a cost of ca. 500k Euros per aircraft p.a. more than with LH-Cargo crews - but at a contract termination notice time of only ca. 2 weeks???

It´s the same game at all major carriers.
The union is watching all the "creativity", don´t worry.

Chieftain_pilot 21st May 2002 13:24

Question for wonderbusdriver
 
Can you please elaborate on Air Atlanta taking over freighters for LH. :confused:
rgrds.

wonderbusdriver 21st May 2002 15:33

re Air Atlanta:

One, or rather, "the scenario" to get two parked freighters back into biz was to sell them (don´t know to whom) and lease them back, whilst having them operated by Air Atlanta crews.

The advantage of this "deal" being the much greater "flexibility" (at an extra cost of ca. 500k € per ac p. a.).

In a memo Air Atlanta was described as having a much less (!!!) homogenous group of pilots (than DLH) - consisting of a "golden" core of well-paid pilots, some folks earning a little less (the "silver" group) and the "bronze" group on the outside, whom he compared to "quasi-freelancers" who can be "set free at two weeks notice"...

"Of course management would like to see a flexible in-house (Lufthansa Cargo) solution, but the numbers have to add up, blablabla..."

Basically everyone is seeing the currently huge market potential for us, but they´re scared sh@tless that GWB will pull some stunt on Saddam.

wallabie 22nd May 2002 09:15

Grüss dich Wonderbus

Good God, it was high time you stepped in !
Gents, I'd just like to remind you that LH are the last be given a lecture as to " Will you take that kind of donk " blabla ......... when they managed to get a 26 % raise a little than over a year ago with just 2 1/2 days of strike over a period of 3 weeks !!!
They do it german art ya know, discreet and efficient and for all I know this seems to be working wonders.
By the way Wonderbus, eure Sandwich smecken lecker, das muss sicherlich mit dem Senf zu tun haben !! Alles Gute.;)


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