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I spy 23rd Apr 2014 10:48

"But Dolan also added strong words of caution: "The more we look at it, the less excited we get."


This statement concerns me......:(

captains_log 23rd Apr 2014 10:50

Debris
 
Anything resembling fibreglass on the inner fuselage of a 777?

RTD1 23rd Apr 2014 10:52


Lack of any physical evidence. All the circumstantial evidence we have says it should be on the sea bed around where they're currently searching with the AUV, but nothing's turned up in the right place yet, on the surface or under it.

I strongly suspect it's down there somewhere, but, until something is found, people will continue to consider other possibilities.
What if the plane broke up shortly before entering the water?

That would account for the ULB pings (the black boxes are there but not the rest of the aircraft), the satellite arcs (the rest of the aircraft is nearby but just outside of the narrow search area defined by the ULB pings) and the lack of debris field (if the breakup occurred at a low altitude).

susier 23rd Apr 2014 11:35

'Anything resembling fibreglass on the inner fuselage of a 777? '


I would think it more likely to be a component in wing panels/flap covers etc

Pom Pax 23rd Apr 2014 17:38

Oz or Africa
 
In recent years several pleasure boats which have broken their moorings in W.A., have end up on the East African coast and Madagascar.

500N 23rd Apr 2014 17:43

Glea

"He said the debris appeared to be sheet metal with rivets."

It's BIG !

"Senior Sergeant Steve Principe at Busselton Police Station told The Busselton-Dunsborough Mail the object in their possession, which had washed up on a beach at Scott River near Augusta, was eight feet (2.43 metres) tall, half a metre wide and was an alloy type of metal.

susier 23rd Apr 2014 18:35

I'm not actually clear whether a fiberglass coating is plausible on parts that are not structurally composite, perhaps that broadens the areas it might be from.


Reading the Boeing site as we speak..

JamesGV 23rd Apr 2014 18:36

Hmmm...let me think about this.
Something that is in the sea....and is made of fibreglass !

It's a tricky one that.

500N 23rd Apr 2014 18:37

Why not wait until they say, yes, it is from MH370 and release the photo
then we can play jigsaw and work out where it fits :rolleyes: :O

susier 23rd Apr 2014 19:25

That's a good point.


Regarding the radar plot you posted about on the previous page, Pontius,


forgive me but is it a plot from one particular radar operator or something cobbled together from two different ones? If it was the latter that might explain the bit in the middle with no information.


I'm probably way off. I like your theory better.

Pontius Navigator 23rd Apr 2014 19:36

susier, how the radar plot was constructed I don't know.

If it had been a snap-shot then there would have been many different contacts shown.

Instead it was a clean plot showing a succession of plots for just MH370. It was this plot that was shown to the Chinese relatives.

I would speculate that it was a computer generated plot showing the historic plot rather than an image from the radar system.

glendalegoon 23rd Apr 2014 20:39

Two Things
 
1. The PLOT showed to the chinese families is quite old and has already been disavowed by malaysian authorities. so just forget it. The plane went northeast and made a left turn to a heading that has not been released, but generally in the direction of the thai/malay border (imho shortest way to an airport).

2. LANDING GEAR DOOR...you heard it here first.

Pontius Navigator 23rd Apr 2014 21:31

glen different plot.

The one with the 270 deg RIGHT turn was a track plot. The one to which I refer is a different radar plot and was not a simple computer plot. It first surfaced via a photograph of the radar plot at a Chinese family briefing. The same plot was subsequently released by the Malaysians with Reuters as one source.

This radar plot is the one showing the last trace at 295/200 together with all the RPs and various FIR and sub region boundaries.

DocRohan 23rd Apr 2014 21:53

debris...
 
Speculating (its more likely a boat part)...but Alloy/fiberglass ???GLARE cargo floor debris??? Would likely be one part that could have enough impact strength to not break into a million smaller bits...

onetrack 23rd Apr 2014 22:06

Current information on the "wreckage" found is that it is metal sheeting with rivets, about 2.5M (8') long. Could be from anything.

malc4d 23rd Apr 2014 22:21

It is all complete and utter ball****............we are all mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed high level crap.........

imaynotbeperfect 23rd Apr 2014 22:34

Debris
 
ABC TV reporting that ATSB has discounted debris being from MH370

JamesGV 23rd Apr 2014 22:40

"Unidentified material that washed ashore in Australia and is being examined for any link to the lost Malaysian plane is unlikely to have come from the jet, an official revealed today.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau had been scrutinising photos of the object, which washed ashore six miles east of Augusta in Western Australia state.
But Martin Dolan, chief commissioner of the bureau, said an initial analysis of the material - which appeared to be sheet metal with rivets - suggested it was not from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370".


Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Sheet metal that washed ashore in Australia is NOT wreckage from MH370 | Mail Online

glendalegoon 23rd Apr 2014 22:53

PONTIUS

can you post the radar track and or plot of which you speak. I would like to see it. I just haven't seen the one you are talking about, I am not doubting you.

When you see 10 tons of BS, its easy to miss one tiny diamond!

500N 23rd Apr 2014 22:57

"ABC TV reporting that ATSB has discounted debris being from MH370"

That saved 10,000 speculative posts :O


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