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QF incident - LAX
That's gonna hurt - Qantas crash in Los Angeles causes millions of dollars damage
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At first I was really surprised this could happen at LAX as the airport has a policy of using an airport security car to watch the wingtip on every A380 when they taxi, but the article states this occurred as one was towed empty from the mx area to the gate. In this case a car would not have been present since the aircraft had not even made it onto a taxiway and would presumably have been monitored by ground personnel acting as "Wing walkers".
In this case somebody was clearly asleep at the switch. |
Shouldn't cost QF that much, including the overnight stays. I guess that will be picked up by the handling company's insurance.
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I've asked this before and never got a satisfactory answer.
Why don't they have video cameras on the wingtips to help avoid such incidents? With all the glass panels on the cockpits surely one could be switched to monitor the tips whilst taxying? It could also be switched to cameras under the plane to monitor the wheels when away from other aircraft to avoid putting one on the grass or running over debris. Even a handheld unit which could be stowed away when actually lined up on the runway would be less expensive than accidents. |
why not just fit the little beepers that you find in any car these days for reversing......................
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I've asked this before and never got a satisfactory answer. Why don't they have video cameras on the wingtips to help avoid such incidents? With all the glass panels on the cockpits surely one could be switched to monitor the tips whilst taxying? It could also be switched to cameras under the plane to monitor the wheels when away from other aircraft to avoid putting one on the grass or running over debris. Even a handheld unit which could be stowed away when actually lined up on the runway would be less expensive than accidents. I would also question how effective the cameras would be at night (the accident above occurred at 9pm local) |
My lowest end Infiniti has the most rudimentary camera and onscreen guidelines and it works fine. If not on current online aircraft, but certainly on future productions.
I understand the certification process will be more tedious and costly, but if we can avoid what could have been a lot worse Joburg BA snafu, isn't it worth the effort? The wingtips on these planes are not visible from the flight deck. And if cameras can be installed for the sake of pax entertainment surely there has to be an out on the pretext of safety. |
In other news, Prang Airways A380 runs over a GPU as it taxies on stand.
"We were looking at the wingtip cameras" said the embarrassed captain :E |
I don't see the relevancy of wing tip cameras in a fender bender where the guy on the ground is driving the ship
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo
I don't see the relevancy...
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I don't see the relevancy of wing tip cameras in a fender bender where the guy on the ground is driving the ship That's because you make the rookie mistake of actually reading the article and thinking things through. Can't have that around here. |
Wingtip sonar based reflectors giving audio feedback similar to reversing cars?The feedback can be sent staight to the towing driver...as its of less relevance to the pilot since he is not reverse taxiing....just a brainstorm.
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I get the feeling that jumbo/super wingtips are to other wingtips as trailer parks are to tornadoes -- they attract each other.
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SeenItAll:
I get the feeling that jumbo/super wingtips are to other wingtips as trailer parks are to tornadoes -- they attract each other. |
Originally Posted by SloppyJoe
That pretty much sums up PPRuNe, people with no clue defending each others uneducated opinions.
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How about the automatic collision avoidance systems and sensors connected to both airplanes and tow trucks? Any close proximity into the NTZ around the plane should trigger avoidance automatically like those already installed in hi-tech cars.:ok:
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How about people taking a bit more care and watching what they're doing ?
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^^^yeah, that.
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Wow....nice civil dialog here....
Easily avoidable ground op mistake, no amount of equipment can replace stupid. (If they wanted to, they could put a different lens on the tailcam and see the wingtips.) |
Quote: Originally Posted by SloppyJoe That pretty much sums up PPRuNe, people with no clue defending each others uneducated opinions. Says the man who never heard of towbarless tractors. Or the man who doesn't know his brakes from his breaks. |
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