Spirit Airlines Emergency Return DFW
 

Spirit Airlines flight in Texas gives passengers a terrible scare - CBS News

Kudos to the crew.

Maybe this drama queen dressed in a man's clothing will be calmed down when his wife mixes his some warm milk and wraps him up in his special blankie. I refer to passenger who spoke with the media.

I'd be interested to hear what the CC had to say about smoke in the cabin, and how all of that went down as they all returned to DFW.

uncontained engine faliure...I would say that is an exciting event!

"An engine on an Atlanta-bound Spirit Airlines jet where passengers said they heard an explosion and saw flames sustained an especially serious type of failure, a National Transportation Safety Board official said Wednesday.

The official told The Associated Press that it was an "uncontained" engine failure, meaning broken pieces and parts of the engine escaped the outer engine housing. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly."

Not all uncontained engine failures created equal :}

It can mean anything from a few low energy blade pieces making through the cowling to a 1/3rd fan disc trying to cut the airplane in two :eek:

BTW, anyone know which engine Spirit uses on their A320s?

Then maybe said official ought to shut the **** up. :mad:

td: good point on "all are not equal" as I review the A380 incident with Qantas. Back to the core point: flight deck crew gets a thumbs up. :ok:

cowling trouble, perchnce?
 

how many incidents now for cowlings not properly fastened?

would this possibly relate to the recent BA problem at LHR?

From the AP story in the Seattle Times:
"The V2500 engines on Spirit’s fleet are supplied by International Aero Engines, a consortium led by Pratt & Whitney."

I've had emergency returns to MIA in a B757 with smoke fumes throughout the airplane and it was no big deal. This probably wasn't either.

We use the IAE V2500 on all our A319,320, and 321's.

Uh, any time an engine blows up and flames decorate the sky, it's puckerable, no?

Didn't sound like a drama queen to me. I haven't had one yet, but I imagine an uncontained failure a few metres from your seat would get your attention, even if you were tough as nails.

I wonder what part of turn off all electronic devices Casey Rogers and the other passengers did not understand. :ugh:

An uncontained failure on a engine that's as ubiquitous as the V2500 is extremely worrying.

But I'd be interested to know who was actually manning the NTSB yesterday - most of their staff have been furloughed due to the federal budget shenanigans.

Possibly the "official" doesn't want to be identified because diagnosing engine failure modes is outside his comfort zone ?

No Big Deal?
 

Did y'all see the video? Quite apart from the engine self disassembly there is the whole thing of fire right outside your window. The cabin is illuminated by fire, folks. Or is that routine in your experience?

Not that the flames are as bad as the engine bits going in various directions, but really - I don't think this is a drama queen here. I dare to say most of us would find that unnerving. I doubt the flight crew had as good a view as the folks in the back.

It appears they handled it very well.

Official NTSB statement does not confirm at this stage whether the failure was in fact uncontained, only that it was reported to them as such:

""I can only confirm that we had a report of an uncontained engine failure and that we have recalled investigative staff to initiate an investigation," the NTSB said in a statement."

Engine failure on Spirit Airlines plane under investigation by U.S. safety officials | Reuters

An engine failure doesn't have to be uncontained to be spectacular:

http://www.jacdec.de/fotos/news/2013...GCC_small2.jpg

hole in wing?
 

Granted, it is a youtube video, making this a rumour, I guess?


In a couple of shots it sure looks like you can see shredded top of wing.
If as stated the video is off this flight then doesn't this qualify as "uncontained"?

Just cut-and-paste the URL into your post.

I dont see any images/videos of the port side of the aircraft...

I've experienced many "non-linear" events in engine tests. They are always exciting.

And I defy any pax not halfpissed, upon witnessing an uncontained failure outside his window, to refrain from calling it an "explosion". :eek:

And per the certification rules, uncontained failures are specified as/required to be "extremely rare", because the energy in the released fragments can be very harmful. The QF A380 is the recent poster child, but not the worst case. The 1989 Sioux City UAL DC-10 may be the worst domestic case.

This one was none to pleasant either:

"On July 6, 1996, at 1424 central daylight time,1 a McDonnell Douglas MD-88, N927DA, operated by Delta Air Lines Inc., as flight 1288, experienced an engine failure during the initial part of its takeoff roll on runway 17 at Pensacola Regional Airport (PNS) in Pensacola, Florida. Uncontained engine debris from the front compressor front hub (fan hub) of the No. 1 (left) engine penetrated the left aft fuselage. Two passengers were killed, and two others were seriously injured. The takeoff was rejected, and the airplane was stopped on the runway."

http://www.airsafe.com/events/report...1996-final.pdf