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Super VC-10 6th Oct 2013 12:26

Aircraft landed on opposite runway to that cleared for!
 
Incident: Kabo B742 at Sokoto on Oct 4th 2013, touched localizer antenna on approach and burst body gear tyres

A B742 on a Hajj flight in Nigeria landed on the opposite runway to that cleared, struck the localiser and damaged a number of tyres.

Don_Apron 6th Oct 2013 12:37

Are you surprised? Well I'm not. All that Swiss cheese stuff was probably nonsense, as there would have been no Swiss cheese there in the first place.

This is the fruit of cancerous corruption and nepotism. I know, it is not only on the dark continent.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 6th Oct 2013 13:36

Staggering and incomprehensible. Don't they have radar?

DaveReidUK 6th Oct 2013 13:44


Don't they have radar?
Or, failing that, somebody in the VCR who looks out of the window occasionally ...

Gulfstreamaviator 6th Oct 2013 13:49

or failing that
 
windows in the cockpit.

pigboat 6th Oct 2013 14:08


.. with 494 passengers and 18 crew, was cleared to land on Sokoto's runway 08 but landed on opposite runway 26..

...deflated while landing in Sokoto to pick up more pilgrims..
They gonna put them in the cargo holds?

eastern wiseguy 6th Oct 2013 15:12

Or a d/f ?

grounded27 6th Oct 2013 15:49


They gonna put them in the cargo holds?
The aircraft had capacity for 50+ more pax.

latetonite 6th Oct 2013 16:00

Com'on guys, he landed on the correct tarmac!

Don_Apron 6th Oct 2013 17:45

I think the problems in this case started well before the numbers on the R/W.

What about the OBS on the R/W heading? What about the ILS freq, if was operative? ADF, VOR needles. Compass heading? Looking out the window, as suggested before?

FLYDHC8 6th Oct 2013 21:37

I think we might be getting it all wrong. From what I understand they were cleared for runway 08 but for some reason (which we don't know) declined to land on runway 08 and decided to land on runway 26.

Correct me if I am wrong but that is what I understood from the article.

kip 6th Oct 2013 21:51

Not wrong runway!
 
The local news here is full of twisted and wrong information about flightaccidents - but most agree that they were offered rwy 08 but asked for 26 - so if they really hit the llz antenna it looks more like a visual 26 that went wrong

oceancrosser 6th Oct 2013 23:18


Originally Posted by HEATHROW DIRECTOR (Post 8084631)
Staggering and incomprehensible. Don't they have radar?

You´ve got to be kidding... in Sokoto?

Two words:

Kabo, Nigeria.

Yes I have flown in the Nigeria HAJJ a few years ago. For Kabo. Never again. :ugh:

20milesout 7th Oct 2013 09:20

Just love Nigerian media:

Saudi Bound Kabo Air Flight Carrying 400 Makes Emergency Landing In Sokoto After Tires Explode Mid Air | Jaguda

phiggsbroadband 7th Oct 2013 10:06

Hi, are we being a bit mean towards the pilots of that plane, and should we not be directing some flack towards the Tower Controller?
I take it that at no time was he being radar vectored onto any part of the circuit, and was flying visually all the way.

The pilot must have intended from 60 miles out to fly towards a ten mile final on RW26. A ten mile final to RW08 is 20+ miles away and would have needed up to 20 degrees difference in course.

Then when he is on short final the Tower gives him the incorrect clearance to land on the other runway... enough to unstabalise any approach, and cause him to hit the aerials.

btw.. aren't the aerials each side of the runway, and not on the centre-line?

DaveReidUK 7th Oct 2013 10:33


aren't the aerials each side of the runway, and not on the centre-line?
Yes - if you're talking about the glideslope antenna, it's normally abeam the runway near the TDZ.

But this guy hit the localizer array:

http://www.europoles.com/uploads/pic...skau1_l_06.jpg

ChiefT 7th Oct 2013 12:50

Whew!: Plane Makes Emergency Landing In Sokoto As Tires Explode Just After Take-Off | 360Nobs.com

AerocatS2A 8th Oct 2013 06:25


Then when he is on short final the Tower gives him the incorrect clearance to land on the other runway... enough to unstabalise any approach, and cause him to hit the aerials.
You know, I really don't think getting an incorrect landing clearance is good enough excuse to get unstable and hit approach lights.

gcal 8th Oct 2013 09:47

Many moons ago approaching Lagos and clearance given to land despite there being another aircraft on the runway (moving slowly, not on a take off or landing run).
We went around but were then berated by air traffic control for not having obeyed their instructions 'Why did you not land when ordered'!
It's a different world.

FLYDHC8 8th Oct 2013 10:43

gcal,

Like you said, "many moons ago"

Naijajet 8th Oct 2013 13:16

gcal, there have been great improvement since then.
Infact all cadet controller now have to get at least a PPL, so at least they have primary knowledge of how tasking flying can be..

FLYDHC8 8th Oct 2013 19:05

LookingForAJob,

Naijajet was specifically talking about Air traffic controllers in Nigeria.

Finn47 9th Oct 2013 11:10

Pilot suspended:
Kabo Airlines has suspended its pilot who disobeyed Air Traffic Control to land its B747 in an alternate runway resulting in damage to aircraft and Instrumemt landing system (ILS) at Sokoto Airport last Friday.
This was disclosed in Abuja, Tuesday, by the Director-General of Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA), Captain Fola Akinkuotu during an interactive session with journalists.
The Kabo plane was conveying 512 passengers from Kano Airport, to Saudi Arabia with a stopover in Sokoto.
The pilot did not comply with the directive given by air traffic controller on duty that the plane should land on runway 08 , but rather diverted to another runway.
- See more at: Kabo Air Suspends Pilot | Leadership Newspaper NG


Kabo Air Suspends Pilot | Leadership Newspaper NG

Cyclopps 9th Oct 2013 13:07

Any reason as to why he chose to land Rw 26 as against 08? I know 08 has an ILS and for 26 its a visual approach.

rogerg 9th Oct 2013 14:33


We went around but were then berated by air traffic control for not having obeyed their instructions 'Why did you not land when ordered'!
It's a different world.
Something similar happened to me at Kano one dark night in a DC10. We were cleared to land by the approach controller and at the end of the landing run were told to change to the tower for taxi instructions. The tower berated us for not getting landing clearance from him, and refused to give us taxi instructions until we asked him for landing clearance!!


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