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countdownconundrum 29th Sep 2013 20:15

Alitalia A320 partial gear up in Fco!
 
Just sitting at the holding point for 25 in Rome FCO this evening and saw Alitalia A320 (I think) land with a gear problem. 16L

Was pitch black, but saw sparks and the aircraft ended up nose high like and wind down! Just like all airbus gear failures these days!

Good response from FCO, with buses and emergency vehicles.

robbreid 29th Sep 2013 20:34

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munster 29th Sep 2013 20:39

The FCO website says flight 063 from Madrid, 151 on board, no injuries.

Super VC-10 29th Sep 2013 21:47

Accident: Alitalia A320 at Rome on Sep 29th 2013, right main gear did not extend

Capn Bloggs 29th Sep 2013 23:17


the aircraft ended up nose high like and wind down!
Not unexpected as the C of G would be behind the left main wheels-right engine pod line.

RAD_ALT_ALIVE 30th Sep 2013 02:23

This is an 'EI' registered aircraft.

Who operates these A320's on behalf of Alitalia? The Alitalia-painted ATR that was involved in the FCO incident was also operated by another company on behalf of Alitalia - does this mob operate anything in their own right anymore??

claser111 30th Sep 2013 03:07

Most of Alitalia's fleet is now "EI" registered and that A320 was fully Alitalia with an italian crew. They did a good job and nobody was injured! :ok:

golfyankeesierra 30th Sep 2013 03:20

No injuries, and judging from what Avherald reports they certainly did a good and thorough job.
If it was a Brit crew it would be kudo's all around and probably have been commended for a medal as well, but hey, this is an Italian "mob".
But I think it's a job well done!

captplaystation 30th Sep 2013 06:41

Carbon copy of Wizzair, same type same airfield.

DaveReidUK 30th Sep 2013 06:54


They did a good job and nobody was injured!
An injury-free evacuation is a rare event. Sky News are suggesting that this one wasn't:

Plane Skids Off Runway At Rome Airport

main_dog 30th Sep 2013 07:40


If it was a Brit crew it would be kudo's all around and probably have been commended for a medal as well, but hey, this is an Italian "mob".
So true!

RAD_ALT, while it is true AZ wetleases other airlines' aircraft/crew (and indeed has had problems with them) this was a standard AZ aircraft/crew, albeit a leased aircraft. Say what you will about AZ's dysfunctional and perennially loss-making management, but I found the quality of training and crews at AZ to be generally top-notch. "Mob" seems a bit unfair.

Good job by the crew it would appear, well done... medals all round and cappuccini e cornetti for all instead of tea and biscuits. :ok:

DOVES 30th Sep 2013 08:16

Brit crew would have been commended for a medal
 
Alitalia crews are highly trained to make safe and comfortable flights for passengers.

ManaAdaSystem 30th Sep 2013 08:50

Did they shut down the airport when this happened, or did they keep the other runways operational?

andrasz 30th Sep 2013 10:02

Will be interesting to see if they will be as quick to paint over tha Alitalia logo as they were with the Carpatair ATR.. ? (or our Thai friends...)

lowandfast 30th Sep 2013 11:05

25 open for take offs and 16R open for landings

ManaAdaSystem 30th Sep 2013 11:11

So they manage to operate the airport and an emergency at the same time? That is very good, as opposed to LHR where they shut down the whole airport the moment a captain farts to loud.
LHR management have a thing or two to learn from the italians.

Hotel Tango 30th Sep 2013 11:27

If I recall correctly, LHR had two emergencies (requiring fire appliances) going on more or less simultaneously, effectively reducing emergency cover to below minimum required for continued runway ops.

Admiral346 30th Sep 2013 16:08

According to the Herald, there was an LH 321 that returned with a gear problem 5h ahead of this incident, and today I saw an A320 land at FRA with the firetrucks rolling beind, with the gear doors down. If I remember correctly, and it is some 15 years ago Iflew that beast, that would indcate either a manual extension, or some hydraulics fault...

Are the 320s getting old?

ManaAdaSystem 30th Sep 2013 23:08

Yes, they shut down LHR for an extened period when the Etiopian 787 started to burn, and they shut down when BA started to throw cowlings around, and they shut down when BA crashed short of 27L, and if my memory serves me right, they shut down once for a VS partial gear up landing. I'm sure there have been other closures as well.

I expect a major international airport to keep open when there is an accident on one runway and the other one is clear. If not, they should limit everyday operations to one runway only.

Machinbird 1st Oct 2013 00:09


Are the 320s getting old?
Everything gets old if it hangs around long enough.:sad:

Judging from the rate of main gear extension failures on the type, it may be time to retrofit oaken runners to the pods to keep from scuffing up the tin.:}


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