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Kim Jong 14th Apr 2013 09:13

Ryaniar - 2 Tail strikes in a week
 
Did the FR tail strike in Malta last week slip under the radar unannounced or has the thread been removed? There was also one apparently in Poland.
One a week is unfortunate, but two will no doubt get MOL questioning the unevenness of the runways rather than any other contributing factors. Any other info?

BARKINGMAD 14th Apr 2013 11:00

TRY THIS LINK? PERFORMANCE REFERENCE HANDBOOK 737

BOAC 14th Apr 2013 13:23

I think the query was have they 'diisappeared' from PPRUNe, not has Hulshoff's site seen them?.

guidof993 19th Apr 2013 12:55

Are Ryan Air still using Flaps 1 Take Off configurations almost at all time to save few Cents ? Think about.

sausage69 19th Apr 2013 13:07

At Ryanair we use flaps 5 unless performance restricted.

40&80 19th Apr 2013 13:44

Reference post Number 2.....Reading the link...It looks like some further training in landing on wet runways (not the sea) and getting stopped on the runway is needed.:{

Mikehotel152 19th Apr 2013 14:04


Are Ryan Air still using Flaps 1 Take Off configurations almost at all time to save few Cents ? Think about.
What nonsense. I have never heard of anyone doing a Flap 1 take off at Ryanair, though it is permitted in certain circumstances.

MrHorgy 19th Apr 2013 14:08

...and when it is - it is a Captain's only departure!

gcal 19th Apr 2013 14:15

I wonder if the pax had to pay for the change of plan ;)

aerobat 19th Apr 2013 17:49

We always used to take off with Flap 1 but this was changed to flap 5 a few years ago after several tail strikes and flap 1 is now Captains only take off.

Teddy Robinson 19th Apr 2013 19:05

Quite incredible that safety related information is openly available on the internet, but reluctant to be discussed by professionals on this forum for fear of retribution from a company that does not like such issues to be discussed.
One hopes that in the wider interest of flight safety this iniquitous practice of discuss and be threatened is discontinued.

Aldente 21st Apr 2013 11:29

According to Aviation Herald they've recently had three tail strikes in a two week period. Alicante, Krakow and Malta.

Sunnyjohn 21st Apr 2013 12:30

With respect and without wishing to get into trouble, I think two points should be made here:
1. As Europe's most intensive short-haul airline, they do a lot of takeoffs
2. You rarely hear about other airlines' tail-strikes
Now I'll get me coat and shut up.

gcal 21st Apr 2013 13:19

That is a fair point taking into account the size of the fleet and the number of sectors flown.
The size of the fleet alone is larger than the vast majority of airlines. If you multiply that by the number of sectors flown you have a massive organisation and obvious potential for mishaps.
I'd say, touch wood, that by and large they do a pretty good job.

kick the tires 22nd Apr 2013 07:18

Incident: Ryanair B738 at Alicante on Mar 27th 2013, tail scrape on takeoff

Why depressurise at 13,000 and create all that drama? They had already descended from 22000 so why not wait another minute and get to 10?

Piltdown Man 22nd Apr 2013 08:06

Firstly, I detest everything that miserable, penny pinching pikey MOL and his like stand for. But he does now appear to have competent group of employee and sub-contract pilots working for him. Every week they operate thousands of flights without incident so therefore I'll suggest that two/three tailstrikes in a week is almost certainly just a statistical anomaly. But, because of MOL's feral, punitive management style, he'll never know if he has a problem or not. Only when it starts to cost him cash will he do anything - but by then it will be too late.

Sober Lark 22nd Apr 2013 08:44

I doubt anyone will be able to answer this but I'll chance it. How many pasengers have Ryanair carried since they started in 1985?

srobarts 22nd Apr 2013 10:12

Sharpen your pencil Sober Lark, it is all here but you will have to add the figures up:
About Us

Sober Lark 22nd Apr 2013 10:51

When I tried to add up the figures my calculator gave me a times ten to the power of E error so srobarts I ended up using a pencil and I got 509,676,285 passengers to end of 2011.

Note: Their 1995 figures are missing a zero and their 2002 figures mark a change to counting each passenger not just each thousand.

kick the tires 22nd Apr 2013 13:20

Now THAT is thread creep!!


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