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PNGDash 12th Apr 2013 08:04

EVA Air at Schipol
 
Could this be right!?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps03afd1fc.jpg

EVA Air Boeing 747-45EM taking off from runway 36L at Amsterdam-
Schiphol, Netherlands ..

The distance to the fence was 145 meters (475ft).

TDK mk2 12th Apr 2013 13:53

What's the issue? The picture is clearly taken with a long lens. If the information that this aircraft was departing from 36L is correct this photo can only have been taken on Ijweg, which is interrupted by the runway approximately at the runway's midpoint. See the satellite photo link below.

Flash Earth - Zoom into satellite and aerial imagery of the Earth in Flash

By the way, this photo was first published in 2008.

charliemouse 12th Apr 2013 14:24

Check... It's just foreshortening - almost certainly the photographer chose that lense and that location. Also the fence is at quite an acute angle and a fair way away at the end of the runway.

Nice pic tho :-)

DOVES 12th Apr 2013 14:35

What's the trick?
People and their machines would have been thrown away from jet blast in a while.

What would have happened if there had been an engine failure shortly before V1?

And if the engine failure had happened shortly after V1?

And what about the 15% of the runway that was supposed to remain?

Fly Safe
DOVE

DaveReidUK 12th Apr 2013 15:07

Can we all play ?

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...a-schiphol.jpg

Hotel Tango 12th Apr 2013 15:19

Doves, are you serious???

KBPsen 12th Apr 2013 15:21


Originally Posted by PNGDash
The distance to the fence was 145 meters (475ft).

That sounds about right. The omitted but perhaps relevant detail is that the fence(s) is located on the side of the runway not at the end.

If you want sensationalism how about the fact that the aircraft was less than 40 meters from the grass.

Hotel Tango 12th Apr 2013 15:27

That spot on the East side of the Ijweg still exists but since that photo was taken parking is no longer permited anywhere along that road, much to the chagrin of visiting photographers. It's actually better in the morning when the Sun is behind and also very good for landings on 18R. The spot on the West side of the runway is now a designated spectators area with a large free car park. Take note LHR and LGW!

flydive1 12th Apr 2013 15:40


Originally Posted by DOVES (Post 7790008)
What's the trick?
People and their machines would have been thrown away from jet blast in a while.

The T/O path is about parallel to the fence and people location, no problem with the blast.


Originally Posted by DOVES (Post 7790008)
What would have happened if there had been an engine failure shortly before V1?

No problem, still about half runway available.


Originally Posted by DOVES (Post 7790008)
And if the engine failure had happened shortly after V1?

No problem clear path in front of the aircraft, no obstacles.


Originally Posted by DOVES (Post 7790008)
And what about the 15% of the runway that was supposed to remain?

50% runway remaining, quite a bit more than the 15% you enquire about.

DOVES 12th Apr 2013 15:55

@ Hotel Tango
Never been so serious
@flydive1
Thank you so much.
Last time I have been in Amsterdam was more than sixteen years ago.
I'm gonna check the map again .
Fly Safe
DOVE

Hotel Tango 12th Apr 2013 19:08

Doves, oh OK, sorry. You posted such complete nonsense that I really thought you were joking. You only had to look at the link 2 posts above yours to get at least some of your facts right.

Sober Lark 12th Apr 2013 19:26

At least for the BA flight they increased security. Note how the potential terrorist with the child is receiving a security pat down search. The baby's bottle has been tasted and the gentleman putting his shoes back on at the fence has had liquids confiscated. Note how those with fast track security simply drive past with the odd one being selected for a random search of the boot. Every picture tells a story.

OntimeexceptACARS 12th Apr 2013 19:46

Can we move this to JB please? Or a bucket?

Carbon Bootprint 12th Apr 2013 22:50


Can we move this to JB please? Or a bucket?
Please don't insult the JBers, they're a sensitive bunch. :}

Anyway, Spotter's Corner would seem more relevant.

DIBO 13th Apr 2013 00:31

The picture was certainly taken from the Spotter's Corner, and we all watched it from the Spotter's Balcony, and that's where this topic belongs.
Nice picture of the big beast, though! And that's about all that needs to be said :bored:

Akali Dal 13th Apr 2013 01:43

You guys missed the intent, namely to imply that possibly the pilots were Chinese and they did not know how to fly. All else is just chicken ****.

Sober Lark 13th Apr 2013 07:27

No the point is it is about the lack of airport security. What is the point of screening passengers if public can get that close to an aircraft. Wouldn't take much to take it down.

flydive1 13th Apr 2013 07:47

http://media2.hickorees.com/image/SlingShot_L1.jpg

BOAC 13th Apr 2013 08:13


to imply that possibly the pilots were Chinese
- what? BA Airbus pilots are Chinese- struth!:eek: BALPA, where are you?

Hotel Tango 13th Apr 2013 09:45


No the point is it is about the lack of airport security. What is the point of screening passengers if public can get that close to an aircraft. Wouldn't take much to take it down.
Perhaps, but that goes for most airports. Rest assured that LHR is no safer than AMS as far as that is concerned. As one who knows these AMS spots well, I can tell you that there's cctv supported by multiple and continous security patrols both inside and outside the airport perimeter. Furthermore, the high number of spectators frequenting these spots is in sorts an added security net.


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