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waddawurld 28th Mar 2013 20:13

numbawan-- I don't know why you want to place blame on Brinks (other than the fact that it is their responsibility and charge)-- you make it sound like they could have stopped it if they were doing their job properly.. that's ridiculous. They are inside a supposedly secure perimeter, and if you have ever witnessed cargo loading at night, especially at EBBR, its a busy place. Also, these guys were pros and I doubt anyone would have done any better-- sometimes bad things happen..

jcjeant 28th Mar 2013 20:59


They are inside a supposedly secure perimeter, and if you have ever witnessed cargo loading at night, especially at EBBR, its a busy place. Also, these guys were pros and I doubt anyone would have done any better-- sometimes bad things happen..
Dunno .. about the security in place .. but if they had some .50 there in attendance (just for the time of transit values and take off ) this event had never happen
Guys with .50 are real pros

Clandestino 28th Mar 2013 21:21

You mean like certain John Rambo?

jcjeant 29th Mar 2013 09:05

Not at all .. I'm talking about pros .. those who should know that currently criminals are not armed with water pistols .. but weapons of modern warfare
It was no heavy armed security guards around this plane .. so a gold way for the criminals

Capot 29th Mar 2013 10:57

If I may quote from a post of mine in Questions...


I'll believe that the Governments and airports are serious about security when I see some kind of realisation that until the huge gaps in the "security fence" around operating passenger aircraft are closed, there is no effective security. Pantomimes with searching little old ladies and 2-year old children, confiscating pilots' sandwiches and engineers' tools, stealing Iphones, and so on, notwithstanding.
As a one-time UK Airport Manager, who did the obligatory Security course in Curzon Street, I have some knowledge of the subject. 15 years prior experience of combating terrorist operations against aviation in the Middle East also helps.

The gaping holes include those created by airside retailing, cargo acceptance and heavy maintenance at third party facilities. There are more, but closing those would be a good start, and will never,ever, happen. "Costs far too much, old boy, do get real."

Until, of course, there is a major loss of American lives in an incident which could have been prevented by closing one of those gaps.

Ex Cargo Clown 29th Mar 2013 17:15

I used to have an airside pass, go to Burger King and havee to have it X-Rayed, go airside and do whatever I wanted and just walk out. I can tell you a million ways to breach security, not daft enough to though

speedy12 1st Apr 2013 07:29

Even Kabul is safer then that.
:)

waddawurld 2nd Apr 2013 13:08

jcjeant- How do you know what the Brink's guards had in terms of weaponry? Brink's is a reputable security company with a lot of experience-- as those types of companies go, probably the best in the business--and as such I'm sure had the appropriate amount of armament for what they deemed necessary. When you're out on a public thoroughfare you expect the worst from everyone- everyone has access...When you're in a secure area you expect the worst from the type of people who would have access to that type of area-- the pros that committed the robbery were just that--pros. They were dressed as police identical to all the other well-armed police all throughout the secure area.There was 1 Brink's truck with 3-4 guards all of a sudden being surrounded by 2 police vehicles with 8 armed 'policemen'. Sometimes, as in this case, their element of surprise is what turns the tide in their favor. When you turn around and find a bunch of automatic weapons in your face you don't sign your own death warrant by trying to bring your own weapons to bear.

Ex Cargo Clown 2nd Apr 2013 13:25

I've walked around with VAL cargo boxes worth 100,000s of pounds never felt the need for an AK47! This is an inside job

atakacs 8th May 2013 10:25

Swiss flight "robbed" on the apron in Brussels
 
Reports of 30+ arrests being made in this case !

BBC News - Arrests over $50m Belgium airport diamond heist

lomapaseo 8th May 2013 13:41

This reminds me of the Lufthansa heist at JFK. A smooth operation and little to go on until the mob of characters started blowing the money "Goodfellows"

VH-Cheer Up 9th May 2013 05:23

Yup, news even made it Dunnunda...

Big Heist. Bigger Arrests.


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