@JQKA

And you being aware of this "creepy stuff", have done what about it?

@chocolateracer

No, from the flying seats

editted to remove specific reference to left seat

Burnie5204

How can a Monarch (a British registered airline that does not operate 737s) Captain be sitting in the LHS of a Lithuanian registered 737?

Just out of interest are you an ATCer, Pilot, something else to do with aviation or a spotter?

Not a clue but they had MON ID


and I work on the ramp.

So just to get this straight, you are saying that a Monarch Captain is operating in the LHS of a Lithuanian 737? Not sitting in the jumpseat auditing the flight but actually operating from the LHS?

Given that from the ground I could only see 2 people in the cockpit, heard the British voices from the flightdecks on the radios and they were all 4-ring captains I believe they were in at least one of the 2 flying seats.

Totally speculive, so don't sue but ex Baby crew hired short term?

Back to all foreign accents in both flightdecks again today, supposedly the 4 British Captains were only in the cockpits on Sunday and its been the original wet lease crew voices we've come to recognise again since then.

@ Cough.

Yes I'm aware we're talking about a Boeing here - I was adding the procedure for the 'bus for context. What's the procedure on a Boeing for loss of braking? I assume there's a backup or is just a case of applying the parking brake? :eek:

Independent hydraulics plus an accumulator, so a 'Total loss' is very unlikely. If it were somehow to happen you need to find some soft grass somewhere to............................oh, wait a minute.........................:uhoh:

No 'parking brake' as such, the lever merely 'latches' the applied pressure.

Burnie5204

I think that you must be mistaken, no Monarch Captain would be operating a Lithuanian B737. There might be one on the jumpseat overlooking but certainly would not be transmitting on the radio let alone sitting at the controls.

goodness this is like emmerdale

the MON plot thickens

Nope, there were definately british captains, who swapped off and on at the end of the first V sector (so 4 of them by my reckoning) when the rest of the crews stayed the same, who were definately talking on the radio taking clearances, taxi instructions, headings, etc. on both the Air Italy Group AND the Small Planet a/c....

So unless both wet lease airlines happen to have 2 british captains on the books, AND both companies happen to have scheduled both those captains to fly on the same day despite the rest of the crews from both companies operating both V sectors AND despite not having scheduled those captains to fly on any day of the 2 months of operation so far or on the 3 days since.


I dont presume to know what was going on, why they were there or how they came to be there I'm just telling you what I saw

Burnie5204

So now you are saying that they are British Captains not Monarch ones even though you claim that you saw one if their IDs which showed Monarch?

How do you suppose that a Monarch pilot could legally operate a 737 (which Monarch don't operate) which is registered in a completely different country for a completely different airline.

You obviously have no idea whatsoever of the legalities of licensing, type ratings, operator specific proficiency checks or line proficiency checks and what is required to operate an aeroplane for a specific operator under that operator's AOC.

Maybe one or more of the wet lease airlines has a Brit or a few Brits flying for them, but they are not Monarch pilots operating those aeroplanes, I can absolutely assure you of that.

Monarch on the ID
Monarch on the Hi-Viz


And like I said above. I dont know the 'how's or the 'why's I'm just saying what I saw and heard.

Probably an audit. Why not ask him/her?

I would if they hadnt turned up for one day on Sunday and cleared off again.