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aseanaero 9th May 2012 13:09


PS from me: Dolya mentioned that there was low clouds the whole day
I don't know about Bogor but the weather wasn't flash at Halim this afternoon.

Chappy Hakim (ex Chief of Indo Air Force) was on TV at 6.30pm saying no SAR possible this evening due to bad weather in Bogor

Kulverstukas 9th May 2012 13:13

Somebody (?) tweeted from one of the passenger name:

https://twitter.com/#!/aremookephy

View From The Ground 9th May 2012 13:19

Update from Jakarta Globe
 
Update: Indonesian Airline Reps Aboard Missing Russian Plane | The Jakarta Globe

Apparently list of passengers published at Halim Airport

Looks like some Airline representatives from Indonesian Carriers and journalists.

Although looking unlikely hope that this does not turn out as bad as it looks

W2k 9th May 2012 13:29


Somebody (?) tweeted from one of the passenger name:

https://twitter.com/#!/aremookephy
Google Translate on the last few tweets yields:
  • Nicholas Martyshenko here too, carried pic.twitter.com/dxi30I9P
  • all a bit scared, but the flight attendants take care of all professional, calm pic.twitter.com/dxi30I9P
  • (Name), we are on board, we can not communicate with anyone, just my work twitter
  • (Name), everything is fine with the Superjet-100, I was on board, they say just a communication problem

The last one is just an hour old (as of now) so well after the Superjet was reported missing. So seems to be good news, if true. One of the comments on the latter photo suggests the interior shot is from a different type of aircraft.

grimmrad 9th May 2012 13:30

SLF asking:
Why do you know it is from someone on board - and what does the tweet say?

View From The Ground 9th May 2012 13:32

More Local Links Jakarta Post
 
More links from the local press

Be warned one names the crew

Three locals 'saw and heard missing aircraft' | The Jakarta Post

Crew of missing Sukhoi Superjet 100 airliner named | The Jakarta Post

Sukhoi Superjet missing over Mt. Salak | The Jakarta Post

Kulverstukas 9th May 2012 13:37

http://f2.s.qip.ru/DKMgABBu.jpg
Sergey Dolya ‏ @dolyasergey
Trajectory of flight of the plane. It flew around the mountain and then abruptly changed a course and began sharp decrease where black arrows are

Kulverstukas 9th May 2012 13:48

Gerry Soejatman ‏ @GerryS

SSJ100 crash site reported found by SAR heli just prior to aborting due to bad weather. No info on survivors. Awaiting official word.

blueirishPDX 9th May 2012 13:52


all a bit scared, but the flight attendants take care of all professional, calm pic.twitter.com/dxi30I9P ... One of the comments on the latter photo suggests the interior shot is from a different type of aircraft.
That pic is certainly not consistent with other pics I've seen of the Superjet's interior. It appears to be more consistent with a 154 as mentioned in the comments.

@aremookephy, I feel, is a fake.

aseanaero 9th May 2012 13:53

I know a few people on board through business dealings :-(

A close friend of mine is waiting on news on his colleagues at HLP , no news yet

fullforward 9th May 2012 13:56

Sad
 
Not the best start for the only EMB 195 competitor!...
:(

aseanaero 9th May 2012 14:12


Sergey Dolya ‏ @dolyasergey
Trajectory of flight of the plane. It flew around the mountain and then abruptly changed a course and began sharp decrease where black arrows are
Where did the info for this map come from ?

JohnieWalker 9th May 2012 14:17

From Sergey Dolya | Facebook , quite famous Russian blogger, this time probably part of media team from Sukhoi side covering the demo flight.

Let us hope for the best...

northerntomcat 9th May 2012 14:20

I would think S and R would have spotted fire by now as it is now dark.And what about an EPIRB or ELT anyone know if it was equipped?

sevenstrokeroll 9th May 2012 14:45

altimetry problem, setting? misunderstood meters and feet? CFIT does seem right

now, I've never flown in that country...in the USA IFR rules are 2000 FEET above mountinous terrain

if mountain was 7,200 feet...9,200 feet would be min (round up to 10,000 maybe).

does anyone remember the air new zealand crash in antartica? hmmmm

aseanaero 9th May 2012 14:51

Without pre-empting anything experienced local pilots who know that area have come to grief in the past , there's some big mountains out there and the weather can change quickly and get violent.

Add to the fact the crew isn't local ...

Carbon Bootprint 9th May 2012 15:01

A number of sources are now reporting there were 50 persons aboard the flight.

News article

mathers_wales_uk 9th May 2012 15:04

Transportation Ministry air transport director general has not confirmed the Suhoi Superjet 100 to have crasjed because the body of the aircraft and it's passengers have not yet been found

Article

aseanaero 9th May 2012 15:37

google maps gunung salak - Google Maps

Although close to a major town (Bogor) you can see on this map that the 2 mountains (Salak and Pangrango) are very remote and rugged. I've been off roading in this area (the much smaller mountain gunung bunder to the north) and there's some very wild country out there.

There's a major air force helicopter base 30kms away , if they weren't flying this afternoon looking for the aircraft it says something about the weather around those mountains.

The map posted before showed the aircraft lost contact in the vicinity of Mt Pangrango , the bigger of the 2.

stonevalley 9th May 2012 15:40

i know this area well. I hope it did not crash onto the hundreds of little hamlets in the valley


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