Koreanair A380 tail strike NRT
 

Rumor of KAL tail strike/engine contact in NRT on 21 July. Anyone validate the rumor?

Kleons flying the aircraft?

NRT-Again
 

I am sorry to hear that the close call comes closer. About 3 years ago a bankend landing with cross wind in a B777-200ER, less then two years ago a 1.000ft tail scrape on landing with a B777-300, a while later a Kangeroo style landing at NRT in the same type. Now the shiny new A380..... outch. But if you look into the Far-East you will see a discussion that KAL-Pilots want to get rid of many ExPats as possible, maybe safer for them to be away.....

You may be jumping the gun there B737NG. Do you know for sure it wasn't an ex-pat flying this A380?

Yeah, it's true.

Japanese news showed the actual aircraft, an A380, which showed signs of scratching damage on engine No. 4 during the post flight inspection. It didn't show the actual damage so I don't know the extent. However, the same news also reported that the damage was determined to be limited, and the aircraft flew back as scheduled with pax.

Anyone know the bank angle required to drag the outboard engines?

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Weather did not look to stable.

Hotel tango
 

I know that there where no Expats in TLS for the initial training. There where also a significant number of Pilots sent back to Seoul as unsuitable (Airbus voice) to train for the A380 as there was: Lack of knowledge of the Airbus product and the language barrier.

The only non Korean you find at the moment in that Airplanes are Airbus Instructors sitting as monitoring Cockpit members either right or back seat.

Now trust me, you have not even the tip of the Iceberg here......

Good on the NRT airport authorities to check on FODs. About 6 or 7 years ago, a KAL B744 pranged the engine on landing and the skipper kept quiet about it after the walkaround for the return flight hoping that it will be foisted onto the next unfortunate guy! Unfortunately this piece of work was an expat!

12-15kt gusts are hardly enough to call the weather unstable. If you can't handle that kind of wind you have no business sitting in the cockpit of any commercial jet.

Incident: Korean A388 at Tokyo on Jul 21st 2011, engine pod strike

picture on the same page:
http://avherald.com/img/korean_air_a...o_110721_1.jpg

No, but windshear tends to destabilise a bit.. :rolleyes:

...quite a bit. :ooh:

Someone know the max crosswind for this baby ?

wow - looking at the picture linked above it wasn't a smooth landing...

Airbusses in general don't like gusty or turbulent conditions & can be testing at times. Autothrust can be all over the place & if the crew had minimum time on type would find it particularly challenging. The max crosswind for landing on the A380 is 40 knots.

How's reading the full METAR? I can see crosswind components ranging from 5 to 30 kts.

How about reading my post. I clearly said GUST'S. Steady winds up to the max certified should be no problem to a pilot with any kind of hand and feet skills.

bcflyer....IMO, your statement is armchair quarterbacking at best. Have you been into NRT (or similar windshear susceptible airports) under these conditions with little or no time on the aircraft you are piloting?...windshear is felt right through the flare here. It requires considerable skills and as it appears beyond the capabilty of this crew. There are aircraft (xwind) limits and company limts. This approach is not as simple as you make it sound.

X-wind landing limit for A380 is 40kts.