Ryanair flight hits 'turbulence'. 3 injured. Emergency landing
 

Bad weather in the Central Med last night. Huge CBs.


timesofmalta.com - Passengers injured as Ryanair flight from Malta to Treviso hits turbulence

Now if the steward was in the flightdeck assisting the Captain, like Michael wants, things could have turned out differently.
I hope all involved are well.

This article states that the injured passengers were injured by falling hand luggage from OHCs. Perhaps that is why most airlines restrict hand luggage to 5 kg, rather than 10kg allowed by FR.

Ryanair Malta-Treviso flight makes emergency landing at Bologna airport | MaltaToday

Some, maybe, but not "most". See here or here. I just checked the official hand luggage pages of 3 airlines at random (BA, EasyJet, BMI) and found no mention of weight limits on any of them.

I wonder why so many people feel the need to have a pop at FR even when it concerns things for which MOL cannot possibly be held responsible? Sure, he's annoying, and the very notion of Hahn is a crime against the travelling public, but that doesn't mean that people injured during turbulence are his fault. (On my last flight with FR, I had a chuckle at the CC announcement: "The toilets are located at the rear of the aircraft, and are still free.')

Really? :eek:

There is now so much hand baggage on Ryanair (with overpriced empty baggage holds) that on our last flight (gerona-bournemouth) the only empty row of seats had at least a dozen bags (unsecured) piled on the seats as the overhead bins were full!

Report it to the CAA.

Or the IAA even.

There is a point at which clutter in the cabin must become a danger to safety. I guess that this is shortly after impact? Although I am not one for unnecessary regulation, this seems an area where safety is being compromised purely for the sake of cost savings, and as such should be regulated against.

There is a double issue here - the presence of heavy unsecured objects in the cabin and the inevitability that in the event of an emergency evacuation most passengers will try to retrieve and take their baggage with them. Both will cost lives eventually.

And were the CC aware of this prior to departure because as inept in flying aircraft as they currently are, they are pretty spot on with regard to regulation and policy. Excess baggage within the cabin goes into the hold once labelled by dispatch. Or was it a case of pax moving baggage inflight in order for it to become more accessible? Again it should have been stowed for landing...let's be clear here. This shouldn't be shrug your shoulders, who cares, seat of your pants cowboy sh1t when safety is concerned.....

From AvHeraldThat would be "moderate chop" then ?

B:mad:y hell if true. :uhoh:

We all (and I include myself in this) need to be thinking more about putting the signs on when near an area of CBs and less about allowing the CC to be out in the aisles making up for the unrealistic fares that our pax are being charged. :ugh:

Thats 2 LCCs in the news for dodgy safety practice in the last 24 hours - see Asian Forum re Air Asia blocking pax from sitting near overwings ( Premium Seats apparently -extra dosh ) by leaving tables down for entire flight - emergency evac thankfully not needed . Hard to blame the CC here - if they do not obey their Lords and Masters they are out. Ryanair are almost paranoid about NOT using the cargo holds . Safety AFTER profit ?
Hope all recover soonest.

I remember CEO of mine (which you too might recall kotakota?), who, when asked what was the most important thing in aviation, replied (quite earnestly) that is was 'profit !'

I kid you not.

Well, I have personally witnessed passengers stuffing the most outrageously bulky and heavy pieces of baggage into the overhead lockers in the business and first class sections of the world's so-called legacy carriers (including the likes of BA).

I really don't think this phenomena is at all unique to low cost carriers.

Perhaps it is simply that those of you out there who think that it is, have never ever managed to grace the forward sections of the so-called legacy carriers with your esteemed presence and therefore have no experience upon which to comment with any degree of accuracy?

To say nothing of those infernal 'airliner mountaineers' who struggle on-board with those ridiculous rucksack things...which they then attempt to stuff into an overhead locker.

'Heavy or bulky items must be placed under the seat in front of you' is fine if there's room - but with those large legroom-stealing IFE boxes some airlines fit under the seats, that is not always possible.

The injuries don't surprise me one jot. Just how long is the madness of 'persuading' passenger not to use the hold going to go on. I have a member of extended family who last year went from LAX to China for a tour with only hand baggage. This year it was India. Saves so much time.

Just how strong are the overhead bins supposed to be? I've seen several break just lately.

Money could be made in providing a service that people would not mind paying for. I'd gladly kiss my bags goodbye a day before I travel, seeing them go to a local collection agency, and onto whatever airport's security. That way, being gouged for money wouldn't be so painful.

There has to be a standard overhead case. Made for it and sold worldwide for the job. Laptop and camera okay, but NOTHING ELSE - and none of these daft clothes specially made to take a month's worth of small items in hidden pockets.

It still amazes me how some people can pay less than £20 for a return flight and complain at a little extra for their luggage.

It is like asking some of them to part with their crown jewels.

Low Cost airlines like hand baggage only for the quick turnarounds and the extra they can charge for the hold bags.

Passengers like hand baggage because airports inevitably lose/damage/steal a significant proportion of the bags that get handled.

New aircraft need to be designed to better cope with the amount of luggage that people are able/willing/allowed to carry on to the aircraft.

On my last Ryanair flight there wasn't room for all the hand luggage in the lockers.

It also struck me that I don't think there were more than two people on the plane that had hand luggage more than 2cm under the limit.

And with the hold guarded by fascists that want commission for charging ever higher fees for being in excess of ever falling limits, I don't think this is much of a surprise.

Planes need to be designed according to the modern commercial era, which I can't see changing.

We've spent two decades now attempting to think past the concept of 'fault', so perhaps they're not having a pop, but expressing an uneasy (hopefully inaccurate) sense of swiss cheese holes slowly lining up.