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vovachan 12th Sep 2010 00:21

There was no evacuation ordered

Kulverstukas 14th Sep 2010 18:48

As was suggested in the first day, the case of power loss was "selfheating" of batteries caused by (or which caused) inner shortage. There is no control of batteries temp and no procedures for such malfunction.

3rd_ear 14th Sep 2010 19:09

Congratulations to the crew on that landing, very reassuring. For those of us who have been following the UPS crash thread, notice 4 flight deck crew on this one - I wonder how much of a difference that made in this instance?

vovachan 15th Sep 2010 14:33

The news is the owners want to swap out 2 engines and ferry it out of there.

atakacs 15th Sep 2010 14:53


The news is the owners want to swap out 2 engines and ferry it out of there
Wow.... that will be an interesting takeoff !

BOAC 15th Sep 2010 15:01

Well - they have the ready made starter extension:)

CargoOne 15th Sep 2010 21:22

While I don't think they would have a chance to stay on runway if they need to cut close to V1, runway lenght is more than enough for takeoff roll of empty TU154 with min fuel onboard.

fdcg27 18th Sep 2010 00:01

Tough airplane.
Tough crew.
Well done, to both the designers and the crew.

AN2 Driver 18th Sep 2010 05:35

I reckon they will need to change 1 and 3 as they probably ingested some material during the landing. Other than that, that runway is plenty long for a departure on an empty TU.

Yea, they are extremely tough birds. I recall one to crash in Dehli, one wing torn off and on it's back and still everyone got out. I concur that probably the fact that they did not evacuate but after a brief assessment of the situation decided to keep everyone on board and sort out the escape paths probably saved a lot of folks from injury. Once they knew there was no leak and no fire, why bother with an evac. They always end up with injuries, certainly if you evac into an overgrowth of this kind.

They probably will clear the path the plane made into the forest, they will need to just to get it back onto the concrete. This should give them plenty of space in case of an abort.

From what I hear from people who've been on the TU, they consider this a very fine performance by the crew. Obviously, the fact that a battery malfunction can lead to a total electrical failure is not quite a nice design feature. One guy told me that there is a work around which is implemented in many but not all Tupolevs, where in case of a battery malfunction they can be isolated so that they will not hamper the rest of the plane's electrics. If so, then I reckon the Russian CAA might consider to make that one a compulsory modification.

Best regards
AN2 Driver

mini 18th Sep 2010 23:50

You can analyse and hypothesise this incident to death but at the end of the day its hats off to the crew. It took balls and confidence to do what they did, knowing that the best case scenario was worth trying for and happened to be the result.

Kulverstukas 19th Sep 2010 15:54

Attempt (unsuccessfull) of rescue operation

atakacs 19th Sep 2010 20:40

Did they hit any unforeseen problem or are those just preparation works being carried out (sorry my Russian is pretty lame :) ) ?

vovachan 20th Sep 2010 02:13

I think they need a bigger tractor

kotofeus 20th Sep 2010 12:12

they are saying that the tractor couldn't get the plane to the RWY - not enough power.

The plane attracting lots tourists. People come over, take some pictures etc.
I wonder, how are they going to take off from such a short runway…

RatherBeFlying 20th Sep 2010 12:16


I think they need a bigger tractor
There is always the danger that a bigger tractor will simply end up removing a piece of the equipment while the rest remains in the bog:=

They need to bring inflatable pillows to raise the a/c off the gear; then put proper sized boards underneath.

lomapaseo 20th Sep 2010 12:40

They need a Joe Petronika to manage the operation.

vovachan 20th Sep 2010 18:12

Almost there

http://static.vesti.ru/p/b_460060.jpg

Flying-Corporal 21st Sep 2010 19:43

The lady is saying that the crew landed the plane "blindly". Not to diminish the pilots skills, I think calling it landing "blindly" is bit of a stretch. And I don't really buy the "water cup" story as a replacement for AI in the IMC. Bob Hover's video clearly demonstrates that you can be upside down with the water neatly showing you in a S&L flight.

Everyone likes to believe in heroes and the media gladly spins it out and feeds it to the public.

Kulverstukas 21st Sep 2010 20:58

http://kp.ru/upimg/3dbcf1e95a9df2bc3...4af/335483.jpg
© KP Syktyvkar

Serge Sotnikov, heliport director, for 12 years managed closed runaway. He with this small staff removed garbage and trees which began to grow from the gaps.

atakacs 21st Sep 2010 21:07


erge Sotnikov, heliport director, for 12 years managed closed runaway. He with this small staff removed garbage and trees which began to grow from the gaps.
Why would he do such a thing ?

Anyone with gps coordinates for this airfield ?


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