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howiehowie93 22nd Feb 2010 12:51

Thomas Cook return to Caselle moments after take off
 
Seen this on the Daily Mail www:

Pictured: Hundreds of gallons of fuel leak from Thomas Cook holiday jet seconds after take-off | Mail Online

Says there's no fuel dump system on a 757 - really?

regards
H

PT6A 22nd Feb 2010 13:31

Why do you find it so strange that it does not have a fuel jettison capability?

PT6A

puff m'call 22nd Feb 2010 13:39

Not exactly a major drama unless I guess you're one of the great unwashed sitting on the right side behind the wing :eek:

Probably only had full wings anyway so it would help reducing to MLW for the return.

I no longer fly the 757 but it looks like it's coming from the underwing vent anyway, not a hole in the wing before the rumours start.

Oh well breaks up a mundane day for the boys/girls, something to write in the log book.

Safe flying one and all.

vs69 22nd Feb 2010 14:10

Some truly mind numbing comments on that mail article, mind you it IS the daily mail..... Great pics though!

bigjames 22nd Feb 2010 14:24

fourth photo is best...nice shot of the wake vortices. of course article did not pick that up...

DC10RealMan 22nd Feb 2010 15:01

I wondered if I had mis-read it as it did not mention 1) Hero pilot 2) Congested areas 3) Narrowly avoiding schools 4) Terrified onlookers

lomapaseo 22nd Feb 2010 15:13

Call me curious, what location is the fuel emanating from on the underside of the wing? It doesn't look like a typical vent area behind the wing.

Is it a case of an interior leak making it's way out?

I have seen two fuel dumps close up (one intentional and one accidental) and they didn't look like this

curious

FlyboyUK 22nd Feb 2010 15:25

Looks like the vent from the surge tank

TeachMe 22nd Feb 2010 15:33

PT6A, I read the OP's comment as firmly tongue in cheek. . .

aviatordom 22nd Feb 2010 15:45

More billy bull:mad: from uneducated and quick thinking passengers, this was one of the comments:


"I would rather pay for my cup of coffee and fly on a new aircraft, than go on something this old!!
Easyjet and Ryanair, 15 years in service, not one SINGLE crash!!
Reason? New aircraft, regularly replaced (sold on to airlines like Thomas Cook, Thomson, BMI etc)

- Dr. Henry Wilkes, Guildford, 22/2/2010 14:19"
:ugh::ugh:

Makes my blood boil!



Nicholas49 22nd Feb 2010 15:47

"dramatic moment"
"packed British holiday jet"
"just minutes after take-off..."
"major situation alert"
"terrified passengers"
"immediate wave of alarm through the plane"

Good to see all the old sensationalist clichés made their way into this article. I expected nothing less from such a quality newspaper.

raffele 22nd Feb 2010 17:22

I agree - complete non-event, but some fantastic pictures!

lomapaseo 22nd Feb 2010 18:36


Looks like the vent from the surge tank
OK

But just how much fuel and be dumped overboard this way unintentionally?

I woud be a little worried if the aircraft came to a stop with running engines with this rate of fuel leak

Caudillo 22nd Feb 2010 18:51



"dramatic moment"
"packed British holiday jet"
"just minutes after take-off..."
"major situation alert"
"terrified passengers"
"immediate wave of alarm through the plane"

So there's no apparent drama from where a punter is sat?

It could well have been full.

Just minutes - true, it's very emotive, replace with soon.

Major situation alert - I was in the area and heard Turin was closed due to an emergency, I heard diversions. Minor stuff.

People who aren't au fait with flying every week do, believe it or not, get frightened of flying. Most passengers would reasonably be afraid.

No alarm whatsoever. Never felt your heart skip a beat when you had to do an emergency stop on the road?

The tired old cliché is trotting out the usual garbage about journalistic reports on aviation incidents that are newsworthy to people who don't have to deal with them day in and day out.

aerolearner 22nd Feb 2010 18:51

The surge tank valves are located in that area

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/...796f479497.jpg

tarmac- 22nd Feb 2010 19:33


As the dramatic sequence of photographs shows the fuel was leaking even as the undercarriage doors were closing and the trail it left is clearly evident against the azure sky
:D

Full of brain this guy.

KUMOOZ 22nd Feb 2010 19:50

Yup , you are correct, however they are INSIDE the tank.

The vent /surge tank NACA scoop is located at the outermost part of the wing. Other than a ruptured manhole panel it is probably coming from the overpressure relief valve. Seems like it was doing its job, why is another matter!

tourops 22nd Feb 2010 19:54

Do you have to go on an acting course to be able to "dramatically radio the control tower" ?

:hmm:

TO

paulthornton 22nd Feb 2010 21:40


Do you have to go on an acting course to be able to "dramatically radio the control tower" ?
Not at all, enthusiastic amateurs are encouraged. You just have to ensure that your headset is on at a theatrically jaunty angle and then deliver your mayday as a flawless Shakespearean soliloquy :}

JanetFlight 23rd Feb 2010 02:52


"I would rather pay for my cup of coffee and fly on a new aircraft, than go on something this old!!
Easyjet and Ryanair, 15 years in service, not one SINGLE crash!!
Reason? New aircraft, regularly replaced (sold on to airlines like Thomas Cook, Thomson, BMI etc)

- Dr. Henry Wilkes, Guildford, 22/2/2010 14:19"
Wowwwww....Whoever it is, that Doc Wilkes really shall deserve a Nobel...Not in doctorship...but in Sillyness..Dahhhh:ugh:


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