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Kerosene Kraut 13th Jan 2010 11:09

German Airline Blue Wings halts flight operations
 
German airline Blue Wings AG has stopped it's flights this noontime. They were flying from german airports to Moscow and Kasachstan and used a fleet of A320s. They decided to stop because of financial problems. Parts of the fleet had looked like being stored at DUS for at least a week.

Blue Wings stellt Flugbetrieb ein - FLUG REVUE

All the best of luck to the staff.

Xeque 13th Jan 2010 12:37

And another airline looks like going under.
When will the bean counters learn?
Charge a fare that adequately covers the cost of the operation, the services you provide and the expertise you need to conduct the operation properly - it's not rocket science!
And, in so doing, reduce the possibility of clowns like those on the recent EK flight and again on other flights today (separate threads) being on board at all.
I've said it again and again before but I'll try again in different wording.
PEOPLE ARE FLYING WHO HAVE NO REAL NEED TO FLY BECAUSE THE FARES ARE SO RIDICULOUSLY AND UNREALISTICALLY CHEAP!

A-3TWENTY 13th Jan 2010 13:39

If the counter beans were so effective to manage as they are to cut pilot`s benefits for sure I would still be in my first job.

Avman 13th Jan 2010 14:09

Is that not the 2nd time Blue Wings go under? They had some sort of hiccup about 18 months ago.

Kerosene Kraut 13th Jan 2010 14:13

They got their AOC suspended for a short time as their financing was considered to be unstable by the german CAA (LBA) back then. However shortly afterwards they regained the AOC and looked like growing again.

dubh12000 13th Jan 2010 14:28

They have had a couple of 320s laid up on the far side of the runway in Dusseldorf now for months.

Dodo56 13th Jan 2010 14:30

Sadly increasing fares will only serve to reduce load factor, especially if there is a low cost cattle carrier competing the same routes. Low load factors means unprofitable routes which get discontinued, aircraft parked, central costs become a higher proportion of the airline's total, fares have to be increased elsewhere to cover these, and repeat.

To be fair the routes would probably have been viable if not for the recession depressing pax numbers and the unwillingness of the banks to offer finance to tide airlines through hard times.

Kerosene Kraut 13th Jan 2010 14:32

The link in the first post has a pic of these stored a/c. There must be a fourth one parking close to the cargo ramp.

dubh12000 13th Jan 2010 14:36


The link in the first post has a pic of these stored a/c. There must be a fourth one parking close to the cargo ramp.
The middle one of the 3 in the photo is a privatair machine, the ones that do the all business configuration flights for SWISS and Lufty. That has been there for months also.

Kerosene Kraut 13th Jan 2010 14:40

Thanks for the clarification. So two parked there plus the cargo ramp makes three. What was their fleet number again? Seems 8.

ab33t 13th Jan 2010 16:12

Another one bites the dust . All the best for thos affected

GreyhoundMUC 13th Jan 2010 19:10

The stored aircraft in the middle is not a PrivatAir 319...they have all been transfered to Ethihad and Olympic Air. However, one was stored for some time @ DUS, so maybe that photograph is an older one.

And it is obviously not HB-IIQ which is stored @ AMM.

So it may well be a BlueWings A320!

Kerosene Kraut 14th Jan 2010 07:55

The linked DUS picture looks like a current one with all that snow.

maxrpm 14th Jan 2010 14:08

Quote "Charge a fare that adequately covers the cost of the operation, the services you provide and the expertise you need to conduct the operation properly - it's not rocket science!"

If the pilots need more income just rise that fare so that the cost of operations are covered again.

It is so simple and yet so effecitve! Incredible that those beancounters could not see it all those years. The answer was always right under their very noses!!

Frosch 14th Jan 2010 15:27

Quote: 'If the pilots need more income just rise that fare so that the cost of operations are covered again.'

Blue Wings was one - if not the - "lowest pay" airline in germany. So even with crews working almost for free, it did not work out.

Xeque is spot on. :ok: Pointing to wages in this case is whacky. :ugh:

If you have no product you'll have no business - your operation will end. Sooner or later - no mater what price you charge.


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