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c46r 21st Nov 2009 05:46

Near-miss as Saudia plane deviates from its flight path
 
I love the comment from the Saudi Captain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Near-miss as Saudia plane deviates from its flight path - dnaindia.com

Paradise Lost 21st Nov 2009 06:07

Those moving pax!
 
Loved it! The Saudia Cap'n didn't specify how many pax disturbed the trim on his 747, causing him to "have" to climb 200', but my guess is that 2 of them were queuing for the "bathroom" at the SAME time!

ManaAdaSystem 21st Nov 2009 07:33

A 200 ft is not even a reportable deviation. I don't know the exact envelope of the TCAS system, but I doubt if 800 ft separation will trigger a RA.

Sounds strange to me.

arba 21st Nov 2009 07:38

level busted for sure ! but in Euro Control is 300FT , right ?

ron83 21st Nov 2009 07:47

pax movement:E yeah right

Captain Oryx 21st Nov 2009 08:22


A 200 ft is not even a reportable deviation. I don't know the exact envelope of the TCAS system, but I doubt if 800 ft separation will trigger a RA.

Sounds strange to me.
Ahh, but as we all know, RATE of closure could also trigger a RA.

Methinks there is more to the story than is being reported. Hmmm!:confused:

hetfield 21st Nov 2009 08:23

Too many Djinns in the 747.

Perrin 21st Nov 2009 08:33

Perrin
 
I flew as flight mechanic with Saudia in the 80's. Thats the reason I have white hair now!!!!!! I remember the many flights but the ones into Sanna were :ooh:exciting to say the least. Oh the greed of money it makes you do some silly things.
Keep them up boys :ok:

mutt 21st Nov 2009 08:51

Bloody Europeans, you just cant trust them to do anything!

Mutt

Nippon1 21st Nov 2009 08:54

SV 801 was being operated by Air Atlanta.......all Dhaka flts for Saudia are operated by AAI using B747-300s

Skybeds 21st Nov 2009 09:12

passenger movement yea right! whats next? too many fat a pax in the airplane

leewan 21st Nov 2009 13:36

This must be in the nomination for "The best excuse of the year award.":)
Here's another if the authorities don't buy that:
Could have been two fat pax taking a big dump at the aft lavatory at the same time.

Xeque 21st Nov 2009 14:01

Prayertime?

413X3 21st Nov 2009 14:01

being engaged on your laptops is still my favorite excuse

KENNEDY TOWER 21st Nov 2009 15:20

Saudi Capt. Explanation.
 
As the Irish say I think this Capt. is "AWAY WITH THE FAIRIES" to give this as an explanation is quite one for the books "RIPLEYS".:rolleyes:

Bus429 21st Nov 2009 15:49

While probably not the issue in this occurrence, I can recall an accident in which passenger movement may have caused - or was suspected causal in the chain to the crash - the aircraft to crash; Indian Airlines lost a Caravelle in about 1976 at Mumbai. Engine fire just after take-off; understandable panic in cabin and it is thought many passengers rushed forward as the aircraft approached after turnback; nosed in on the airport. All sadly lost.

merlinxx 21st Nov 2009 15:58

Just the "Fish Heads" again:E

soddim 21st Nov 2009 16:05

I have never met a Saudi pilot who would admit to making a mistake. It was always 'Allah's will' or a westerner who did it.

Intruder 21st Nov 2009 16:10


A 200 ft is not even a reportable deviation.
Our FHB says max 200' altimeter error is allowed in RVSM airspace. However, Appendix G to FAR Part 91 also says a report must be made of any altitude-keeping error or altitude deviation of 300' or more...

Nashers 21st Nov 2009 16:23

in the cruise i would expect the autopilot is on and the crew would not be hand flying it.

if there is a mistake, they have set the autopilot wrong in the first place or someone has VERY fat fingers and turned the knob by mistake.

centre of gravity....:ugh:


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