Air France A330 "Crash Revelations"
 

Tonight (Tuesday 27 Oct) ABC TV is promoting that they are going to screen revelations on the Air France Airbus - A330 crash on their Foreign Correspondent program..

Not a good look for an airline. Airbus A330 Carbon Fiber tail being hauled out of the ocean in their markings.. France - AF447 - Foreign Correspondent - ABC

Sure this will be interesting and may lead to - safer Airbus A330's - hopefully.

I heard they were just going to rehash the weather radar/ice particles theory.

I feel safer already....:ugh:

Quiet news day
 

Thank you 411A for pre-empting me.

Tosh ... ignore.... stupid half wit journalist.

I wonder what he was thinking when he sat down at his desk this morning ?

How do I re-hash a dead story with no new clues, but sensationalize it for maximum impact ?

He should be fired QED.

Open you minds gentlemen

Lets view the program first.

FlyBoy737800;
Open our minds to what? Some scintilating new insight from a journalist,... from television? Sorry, but you have to be kidding.

They will show some amateurish animation made up out of nowhere (because no one has the data) and show it over and over and over as kapoc-filler as the audio drones on about they know not what. This is just another media attempt to grab ratings with a made-up program masquerading as "insight" or "the truth".

I've seen a number of these including one broadcast by the CBC on safety in Canada and it was a complete, utter waste of time because while it soft-pitched the real questions, it provided a platform for a few personal grievances on issues only dimly related to the real, and serious issues.

For those who know aviation, these kinds of programs are a complete waste of viewers' time. For those who like a good, vicarious scare once in a while, they're jam, but don't expect to learn anything.

Open our minds
 

To what ?

have you read the piece ?

What has this hack got to offer that has not already been considered ?

It had better be good !!

Or are we perhaps in for a rehash of speculative syndicated news warmovers with this individual's "personal touch" ?

Call me biased but I have seen this before and it is not worth a moment of anybody's time least of all here.

TR

Here we go: Faulty radar may have caused Air France crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The "revelation" appears to be that the plane's radar is unable to see ice particles in the air, so the pilots would have had no warning of pitot icing.

It's programmes like these which make my mother ask if I have taken off the sticky tape off the pipe thing, so my radar can work!

Useless apart from giving the public stupid played down messages, which really don't make much sense without proper knowledge.

Hi,

Do you have some more information about when it is on please?

I have had a look at the ABC website and i cant see it on ABC 1 or 2

Thanks

This page says Foreign Correspondent is on Tuesdays @ 8PM on ABC1. (It's already Tuesday dunnunda, hence the "tonight".)

Listen..until they recover the black boxs..if ever? all this speculation, is what it is speculation!!! The only way for a successful conclusion and flight safety is find those boxes!

Cheers

SKI

and we get ...
 

France - AF447
Reporter: Andrew Fowler

What brought down Air France flight 447? The families, friends and fellow workers of the 228 people who perished when the Rio-Paris flight ditched in the Atlantic mid-year are all desperate for answers. But with airlines relying on outmoded technology that may never happen.

yes .. right ..lets just let journalists replace the AAIB :yuk:

Switch off the TV, bin the flight sim and start thinking please before posting here.

Do we need a news feed to the red top press on pprune ?

Really ?

Do we ?

Mods please do what you do.

TR

When you're done being 'Angry of Suburbia' you might want to choose some different letters ;)

Just to interject, it may be because Air France understand the media quite well. Not perfectly but well. They have been very open from the very beginning and being open means that there is a possibility for misunderstanding but on the whole this is preferable to stonewalling and the inevtiable consipracy theories filling that void of speculation

and just to back up why this should be removed
 

"One of the biggest problems for investigators has been their failure to find the all important black box flight data and voice recorder."

Actually no.

One of the greatest problems for hacks is avoiding presenting anything that could be construed in a court of law as fact as fact.

Hacks want to make money.

Hence aviation stories are littered with " Heroes narrowly avoiding schools/covents/hospitals" and similar BS.

These journalists should be taken to court by the unions representing the flight crews and made to publicly retract the hysteria they are spreading.

They are underpinning the culture of fear that is destroying the aviation business, and life beyond aviation as well.

Nail em up.

Reply to SKI
 

" Listen..until they recover the black boxs..if ever?"

With respect - this is naive SKI

Air France = French Owned = National Prestige

Airbus Industries = French Owned (Partially) = National Prestige

Airbus A330 outstanding orders around 330 = Billions of dollars

The Black Boxs will Never be found !!!

You said it mate? I am not getting into arguments here I am just stateing the facts, regardless of airbus france etc.......for the familys and relatives who were lost, we need to know what happened...so it won't happen again, that's not nieve...is it!

Fred ..
 

Ahem .. Captain Flintsone excuse me.

do you disagree with my point ? this thread is being driven by drivel, non facts and journalese bunkum ?

I don't have the answers, nor do the French / Airbus and actually nor do you .

Do you support unsubstantiated speculation on this site ?

Retract or we will have to replay that nasty incident with the Engeesh archers. :D .. OK Welsh archers ... did anyone say Agincort ? (ps how doth one spell it ?)

TR :D

I understand we were accused of cheating ! :)

Perspective
 

Before anyone else replies to Flyboy737800, I suggest you look at his/her previous posts in D&G, and the responses given to said posts.

DIVOSH!