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handoek 30th Aug 2001 15:32

ryanair hires 30 junior pilots!!!!!
 
Ryanair just hired 30 pilot with a total time of 200 hours from the netherlands NLS school i have 2300 hours i heard nothing..... WHATEVER RYANAIR

springbok449 30th Aug 2001 15:37

Hi,
I am just wondering if you have an EU license as in your profile it states that your location is the USA, because if you have an FAA license it may be a reason why you have not been contacted. Not having a gop just a thought!
Regards, Bokkie449.

eagerbeaver 30th Aug 2001 17:08

Anyone care to offer a reason why Ryanair would employ 30 dutch students when there are many english/irish pilots looking for a job? baffles me! especially as i am about to apply.

Davey Clark 30th Aug 2001 17:10

If you want my tuppenceworth (which I'm certain you all don't), then I say that if a company doesn't have the professional courtesy to acknowledge an application for employment, then they ain't gonna be worth working for!

My advice is stick where you are, and be happy, don't sell out your happiness for greenbacks.

SuckSqueezBangBlaw!

eagerbeaver 30th Aug 2001 17:20

In fact, how on earth do you know this Handoek? You say you are in the US, thats an awfully long way to hear about something like this.

[ 30 August 2001: Message edited by: eagerbeaver ]

wonderbusdriver 30th Aug 2001 17:29

DLH did the same thing last year... (and took quite a bit of heat from the workers council/union for the way they did it)

These people are young and won“t have anywhere else to go (until they have the hours), so just from that point it makes economical sense for Ryan - and they won“t be whining for the LHS anytime soon.

The DLH-trainers loved “em because they“ve recieved excellent training at KLS, are multilingual , extremely disciplined and "up to it".
I“ve heard the same thing from the line.

But they“re also well organized, have a personal network going that“s faster than PPRUNE and they“re not stupid!
So, if Ryan is as bad as some say...

It“s all a matter of economics for all involved.

Jed A1 30th Aug 2001 17:36

EU reg's / labour law. We are all one now.

If you find yourself unemployed, try signing on for unemployment benefit in another EU state - should work?

SQ7000 30th Aug 2001 17:37

For those of you who don't know "handoek" is the Dutch word for towel. Maybe he's not spending enough time looking for a job but doing something else?

LAVDUMPER 30th Aug 2001 18:33

Which aircraft are the 30 junior pilots being assigned to - the 737-200 or 737-800? I am assuming the 200.

Hey, it would be great experience for any junior pilot. I wish them luck!

My question relates to reciprocity: can UK students fairly apply to a Dutch or other EU airline? Would language alone be such an important issue? Can a non-Dutch-speaking UK pilot realistically apply to KLM or Transavia and get hired?

Cheers

stagger 30th Aug 2001 18:40

30 pilots with a total time of 200 hours? That's an average of less than 7 hours each :eek:

9712 on FL410 30th Aug 2001 19:44

All 30 pilots are going to fly the B737-800 which will be delivered the end of this year.

They have 200 hours total time EACH !!!


-It is a deal between Scheiner FSC training division and Ryanair.-

:D I know, I'm one of the lucky 30. :D

Rat Catcher 30th Aug 2001 22:19

9712 on Fl410
When you have more than 200 hours, perhaps you will hear the old adage about not crowing to loudly....lest you end up on the receiving end :p :p

Flintstone 30th Aug 2001 22:35

As a matter of interest would these lucky people be on the same pay scale as other Ryanair F/O's?

Manflex55 30th Aug 2001 23:54

Well that proves one thing : U don't need to B a 509er or have paid the ATP Academy to B hired by a Major with low time (thank God). 9712, can U give an estimate of the cost of your flight training from 0 to 200TT with your FTO in Holland (to compare with the 509ers here) ? Thanks & good luck. Enjoy the 800.

MF

wonderbusdriver 30th Aug 2001 23:57

sorry to butt in again, but...

The laster poster has a point!
Let us know, what the pay deal is - Is it the same as any other new FO at Ryan?
I sure hope so!!

To some others here:
Do I dedect a certain amount of envy of the people that got into such an ab-initio program?
What choice do these people have? (be honest!)
Would you have signed on, with the debt of 200000 Guilders they have to pay off?
The kid is just happy to be getting a 737NG-rating plus hours and money too.

They were (more or less) lucky, so just congratulate them and don“t be bitter about it.
As soon as Momma KLM calls, they“ll be gone anyway...

Manflex55 31st Aug 2001 00:28

Hmmm, 200,000 Guilders, that's £57k, so about the same as a UK's 509er then.

MF

Dirty Harry 31st Aug 2001 00:54

My best wishes go to the 30 new co-pilots who have been lucky enough to secure an excellent first job. My question is simply this: there are many well qualified 200+ hr ab-initio UK pilots who have spent many thousands of £s to get themselves a licence and who have no doubt been on the Ryanair waiting list for months, even years. So why have none of these folks been hired? It’s my guess these folks would not even get a look in with KLM or Transavia, even if they did speak some Dutch.

9712 on FL410 31st Aug 2001 01:12

Thank you for all the congratulations.

The training from 0 to 200TT in the Netherlands is about FL200.000,- .
In addition we have to buy our own TR on the 800 which is about FL 50.000,-
But after the first 6 months we get the normal FO salary form Ryanair. I can assure you this salary is better then a starting FO for KLM.

Greetz.

bertieb 31st Aug 2001 01:23

It's better than I'm on in BA.They never even acknowledged my application! :rolleyes:

magneto99 31st Aug 2001 12:03

They are also hiring low time Irish/Uk pilots at the mo.


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