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Pilot Pete 14th Jun 2009 10:48


They left the gear down and flew a visual return to LPA.
Hmmn. Sounds interesting.

rubik101 14th Jun 2009 10:56

In all likelihood, the bangs occured very soon after lift off if the gear was still down at 400'. Sounds like a fairly routine non-normal procedure well handled by the crew. Another in the long list of 'Jet avoids disaster after fire and explosion' type of headline.

justme69 14th Jun 2009 13:25


I love all the speculation! I was there (LPA) and saw the aircraft take off.
There were only 2 (two) loud bangs consistent with a compressor stall, and there where no external flames after the 2 bangs. I was on the ramp, and heared the bangs when the aircraft was at approx. 400 feet. They left the gear down and flew a visual return to LPA. So all a lot less dramatic than being said in the press!!
In that case, it could've looked something similar to this:

YouTube - Compressor stall A330

Can be seen as a bit scary by some, but it's not like it hasn't happened before plenty of times everywhere in the world in the past, and will happen again in the future, I'm sure.

It's the usual paranoia that comes after an accident with large number of victims. All of the sudden, just about every little fault that occurs everyday somewhere in the world becomes this big news headline :rolleyes:

Pilot Pete 16th Jun 2009 23:27


Sounds like a fairly routine non-normal procedure well handled by the crew
Speculation I would say there. Which non-normal for an engine problem says to leave the gear down after take-off and fly a visual return?

That is what has been posted on here as happening, which of course is not verified either, hence my comment of 'interesting', which implies 'interesting, if true'.

PP

eliptic 17th Jun 2009 07:19


that a lot of the charter-pilots going up north are not that fluent in non-aviation-standard english. And I guess it's harder for non native english speaking people to understand bad english with a foreign accent

Hmm. a scandinavian charter probably with most pax from norway and probably a scandinavian Crew,,,all scandinavians understand each other quite well speaking native language ,,bad english is not a concern i think,,correct?

eliptic 17th Jun 2009 07:28


Much more common for untrained passengers and hopefully pretty damn rare for the crew flying the aircraft (aviate-navigate-communicate will focus your mind)).
I am "trained" with 150 000 miles a year for 15 years,, and i would say it is normal to get scared in a situation like that,,i would!! especially with a fresh incident grounded 200+ pax in the ocean.

And regards FA,,they are probably human to

stjohnsmythe 17th Jun 2009 08:00

Seeing as this was a new aircraft, does birdstrike sound the most feasible cause for a compressor failure?

BYALPHAINDIA 19th Jun 2009 01:08

Quote
Most PAX don't know what's going on

Reply
Youv'e HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!

They don't know what's going on = Why?

1, They have absoultely NO interest whatsoever in how a modern pax airliner works?

2, They don't think that they have or should know why an airliner encounters a problem?

3, Or they don't understand how an airliner flies?

Don't forget a good 75% or so of the Joe public do not think outside their zone?

Why because they show no interest/regard for anyone or anything else.

That's the answer!

But they are QUICK to make assumptions/blame when they are involved in an aircraft incident/accident.

(I wish we could recycle the Joe public) Lol!!!


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