AA crash near JFK
 

News wire reports that an AA 767 has crashed in NY at 9:15 local time. Location given as the Rockaway section of Queens. Apparently an inbound flight (AA 587), all NY metro airports closed.

[ 12 November 2001: Message edited by: ANOpax ]

CNN Website showing picture of huge pall of black smoke over Queens. This looks pretty bad........

Aircraft type A300

On Bloomberg newswires, CNN say it was an Airbus A300, MSNBC report it as flight AA587. :(

Sky news talking of the aircraft suffered 1, possible double engine failure shortly after take off. Now saying it was an Airbus A-300. En route Santo Domingo.
Eff Oh

BBC reports AA677 was departing JFK .THey say it cud be an A300 nd not a B767 .

May well NOT be a terrorist attack - FAA.

american airlines flight 587 departing 8:38 from jfk heading for santo domingo. airbus a300...

A American aviation related website reports that a engine was seen to detach from the wing shortly after takeoff,???.

It's reported that the right wing was on fire and that there are at least two crash sites. This would indicate a bomb - possibly placed behind the refueling panel on the right wing.

An old expression about straws and camels backs comes to mind.

CNN is now reporting that one engine fell separately from the aircraft prior to the crash ... a friend of mine in USA was just told by someone else that an eye witness reported seeing "metal" come off the aircraft, then there was a fire or explosion from the right side of the aircraft ... :(

From The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...592236,00.html
Passenger jet crashes in New York

Staff and agencies
Monday November 12, 2001

An American Airlines flight carrying 246 passengers crashed in a residential neighbourhood of New York today at 9.15am local time (14.15 GMT).
The Airbus A300 crashed near Rockaway beach, Queens, one of New York's five boroughs. The plane - American Airlines flight 587 - had taken off from JFK airport en route to Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic.

New York's three major airports - Newark, JFK and LaGuardia - were all closed down and their approaching flights were diverted to other airports.

The US federal aviation administration (FAA) said it had no information on the cause of the crash.

The mayor of New York, Rudolf Giuliani, broke off from a meeting and headed to the crash site.

Tragic news, 246 passengers and nine crew.
(Spot the journalistic mistake)

From CNN:

CNN confirmed the plane was American Airlines Flight 587 from New York to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. The plane was a Boeing Airbus A300. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said the plane was carrying 246 passengers and nine crew members.

Well another sad day for aviation.

It is now becoming clear that this was probably just(?) an accident, which although extremly terrible is a relief to many.

May god have mercy on their souls.

:( :( :(

Latest from SKY, the FBI says there was an explosion on board before the crash.

BBC showed pix of an engine in front of a gas station .... :confused:

AA587 A-300: NBC reports a large piece of metal with a separate impact which has destroyed a 2 storey house ? engine.

A/c crashed ~5 mins after take off with no apparent calls.

FAA have declared a Ground stop for all airfields within 25 miles of New York, incl Teeterboro.

RIP

:( :(

CB

Flap 5

The very last thing we need just now is the sort of ill-informed, highly speculative conclusion that you arrived at above. It is FAR more likely that it was not a bomb.

You don't know what happened... nobody does yet. Save the moronic speculation for the tabloids.

Probably a waste of time, but can we PLEASE not emulate Flaps 5 and jump to conclusions- let's try being a little more sensible.

American airlines have a phone number for concerned friends and relatives -

1-800-245-0999

Already some ludicrous speculation in the media. A sad day indeed.

I am ceratinly not a pessimist and I really do hope that my thoughts are proved completely wrong but in these dark times three things come straight to my mind:
1. How far away is the U.N. as it is hosting a number of world leaders.
2. Lighting does not strike so often in one place.
3. Aircraft do not just fall from the sky.