ryanair to start new york flights
 

Michael o leary the CEO of ryanair is in negotiations with an airport north of jfk to start flights as early as december 2001.It has been hinted that the longer range 737 900 series aircraft may be used with flights from Dublin or shannon to Newyork.The no frills operator has indicated that fares may start as low as £130 pounds return.The airport in question is hancock international airport
p.s this is not a joke.

[This message has been edited by biggles 101 (edited 01 April 2001).]

Hmmm, April Fools Day today isn't it? Seriously though, if this is true it will open up a whole new market for no frills, low cost airlines, once one starts they'll all be doing it.

BPEC

this is not a joke as far as i am aware the airport in question is called hancock international airport some where in ny state

well they won't get ETOPS clearance for quite some time "if ever". and even if hell froze over and they got 3hrs ETOPS clearance, they ain't ever going to be able to carry 150+ pax, baggage and sufficeint fuel for a 7hr flight. besides, for not alot more cash you can sit in luxury aboard a nice "mega jet" with free drinks, more room and arrive at an airport that people have heard of. also they could have flown 6rtn dub-uk flights in the same time as a return nyc flight and made alot more cash.
deffinately April 1st joke.

[This message has been edited by BOEINGBOY1 (edited 01 April 2001).]

Isn`t it 1 April today.....Fools Day :)

But it could be another Laker SkyTrain.

well continental were going to put a 737 800 on the shannon route but the unions would not agree to it,this is why a 900 series would be used because it has a longer range higher mtow and if boeing stats are correct you could carry 180 pax etops two fmcs of course to nyc and the flight time from dub is about six hours.Ryanair predict they could make a profit,they may prove us wrong

Who in the world would spend 7 hrs in the lousy company of Ryanair ?????

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Yeah right!!

Which passenger in their right mind would take the crappy service offered by the Ryans on a longhaul service to the USofA. Its bad enough in Europeas it is. This has to be rumour mongering at its worst. I'll be sick as a dog if it happens.

Uhm, I'd doubt that MOL is daft enough to have a go at this.

The phrase 'economy of scale' comes immediately to mind, i.e. that's (imho) why these days we have wide-bodies doing these routes, and not B707's and DC8's - ok, the occasional B757 does do it, but it's probably a lot more capable (read 'tried & tested' ) than a B739 - and yeah, the B739 might be able to do it - but would you (and the pax) want to ?!

Now with the majors already cutting each others throats over excess capacity on North Atlantic routes, and when you've got an already well recognised short-haul product / brand / niche-market, why try and face-up to them ?! e.g. perhaps a relevant example is (was) People Express - i.e. you'd get your arse kicked big time !

Also, from Northern Europe, even a TFS in a B737 at M.74/.75 seems like a long way, never mind anywhere in the State of NY - and it'd sure seem even longer when every other bugger on the route is flying well into the .8's.

Ps. It's a good 1st April wind-up I reckon.

Not a Ryan myself, but they don't seem to be short of punters for what I read descibed as a "crappy " service now do they!!!? Jealousy again! Read the balance sheet and weep!
Good wind up but the aircraft stats. don't bear it out...Nice try though!!

O. K. C.
Just a tech point as what you said is surely correct but mmo on the B737NG is 0.82 and an average cost index gives a 0.795 cruise. Never going to set the world on fire but it's not the slug it once was!!!

I was recently in seattle on an acceptance delivery flight and had a long discussion with some boeing technicians about the performance of the ng aircraft,I was told that the envelope was being increased on the 738/9 series aircraft to econ cruise of .82 and thats better than the A330 which makes it not a bad aircraft all round.

I look forward to reading the figures Biggles but it seems to burn a couple of hundred kilos an hour extra going from 0.79 to 0.81.

Was just wondering how this will affect the statistics of DVT cases ? 7 hours with the knees wrapped around one's head does not sound terribly fun to me. Have never flown with the jolly chaps of Ryan, but have served sufficient time in the back of other aircraft in similar (charter) configuration to speak with a certain degree of knowledge, and a 3 hour flight in any of those coffins is about all the abuse my body will accept. 7 hours in similar "comfort" will be the killer of all flights.

Well, it is April 1st.

DT

"Yeah right!!
Which passenger in their right mind would take the crappy service offered by the Ryans on a longhaul service to the USofA. Its bad enough in Europeas it is."

Now THAT has to be the biggest pile of b******s I've ever read on PPRUNE!!

Gyrohead, since when did you consider yourself spokesman for the general public!!?

(If you were joking, apologies!)

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Good Morning Buenos Aires

I believe it will not burn any significant extra fuel,as the aircraft will come with winglets fitted as standard,so Boeing tell me .I hope this clarifys your query

Dublin Newyork does not take seven hours it takes an average of six hours.

no - nyc to dublin takes an average of 6hrs.
dub- nyc will take a heck of a lot longer.
and besides, the wx over the north atlantic is very un-forgiving, so you need a healthy reserve. where does ryanair plan to fix all of these extra fuel tanks ?

leave it to the professionals.

It must be April fools. Nobody whant to sit on Crappy Ryan Scair for 7 or 8 hours. Only loosers whant to sit there for 1 hour :) And only big time loosers whant to be a slave for them :) :) :) :)

Hey for £130 Ret I'll sit any where. Ryan scare in my opinion are far better than Go Even tho it is 1St April