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Maisk Rotum 9th Feb 2009 08:17

Korean Air intercepted by German Fighters
 
A 744 cargo flight from Tel Aviv to Brussels was intercepted by fighter aircraft as it entered German airspace on the 7th February after it failed to respond to radio calls for an hour and 40 minutes. It crossed through four countries failing to respond to any radio calls. As it entered German airspace it was intercepted by military aircraft to ascertain it identity and dilemma. At some time thereafter it become 'operations normal' and landed normally.

I bet it was anything but operations normal for the crew after they saw the fighters.

Faces redder than kimchee??!!

captplaystation 9th Feb 2009 08:23

1hr40. . . . phew, that is what I call a "power-nap" :rolleyes:

GlueBall 9th Feb 2009 08:51

Secondary emphasis conceivably may focus on actual duty time and accumulated, multidirectional jet lag. :ooh:

Boeing Pilot 9th Feb 2009 09:40

1h40min.....hahahahaha.....hahahahaha

merlinxx 9th Feb 2009 09:52

Kolean again:=, keep up the good airmanship chaps:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

The Big Easy 9th Feb 2009 10:17

Not the first or last! PIA and VS come to mind!

FCS Explorer 9th Feb 2009 11:27

i wonder how the fighter guys got the sleepy heads to wake up !? :8
or maybe they just woke up by themselves...?

and what would happen if u tried to "enter" into U.S. airspace like that?
:eek:

CargoOne 9th Feb 2009 12:18

Korean and jet fighters... :suspect:

potkettleblack 9th Feb 2009 12:56

A TA or RA off the fighter jets would surely wake them up.

Guttn 9th Feb 2009 13:00

I wonder how this aircraft got through 4 airspaces of 4 countries before being intercepted:D. Somebody was sleepying on duty, and it probably wasn`t just aircrew:zzz::E

Rainboe 9th Feb 2009 13:23

Densely packed countries in Europe- you could do four in the time it takes to eat breakfast! And Liechtenstein thrown in free. Just be glad the 'Russian' solution wasn't applied again- losing 3 to shoot down would stasrt seeming careless!

Teddy Robinson 9th Feb 2009 13:37

oh I bet the guard police were having fun .... the 121.5 tapes would be velly interesting :D

golfyankeesierra 9th Feb 2009 13:44

I remember that eicas (or whatever it is called) had an alert for that. Been a while since I flew the -400 but I thought there is a visual + aural alert if there is no buttonpushing (FMC or VHF) in a specified time. Anyone?

CargoOne 9th Feb 2009 14:50

golfyankeesierra

B707 had all neccessary instruments and navigation equipment to operate Paris to Anchorage, but as we all know it doesn't help if it is Korean Air aircraft :ugh:

Thaihawk 9th Feb 2009 16:36

KE intercepted in Germany
 
This must have come as a shock to the Luftwaffe to have launch jets on a Saturday.

Presumably JG-74 at Neuburg with their shiny new Typhoons,or EF2000 as the German Air Force call them were called upon to do the honours.

Mariner 9th Feb 2009 18:02

Crew Alertness Monitor
 
GYS, it's called the Crew Alertness Monitor. Generates an EICAS advisory msg if you haven't touched any switches in a certain amount of time. I believe it is 20 mins. If you don't do anything after the EICAS msg, you get an aural warning to wake you up. First a beeper, then a siren for a wake up call.

So they can't have been alseep for all that time. Something else (not?) going on there.

EMIT 9th Feb 2009 18:47

Sleeping??
 
Guys,

Cut the crap about sleeping and such! Button touch monitors and such do not protect against missing calls by ATC over the radio.

The guys can well have been awake and busy, but have missed radio calls, that's all. Perhaps they have accidentally turned down a radio volume knob.
Could they have realized sooner that the radio was awfully quiet? I bet yes, but perhaps the flight was during a quiet period anyway - don't cargo's often fly opposite the busy time of pax operations?

Launching ready to fly airforce jets is standard practice to clarify such a situation, nothing that any airforce type will get nervous about. Man, how often doesn't it happen that some Cessna pilot does not properly file a flt plan and has to be intercepted for identification?

In short, don't make an elephant out of a mosquito.

airfoilmod 9th Feb 2009 19:00

Well
 
I missed several calls with a knob down on Com2. It happens.

misd-agin 9th Feb 2009 19:27

Anyone can miss a radio call or two.

And then there's the 1+40 hr version. :uhoh:

golfyankeesierra 9th Feb 2009 19:28

Mariner, thanks; guess they weren't asleep.
EMIT, agree, but still 1hr40 min is a long long time.
Surprises me the jets weren't scrambled earlier; Helios comes to mind.


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