Is it safe/legal to be chief pilot B757 and B727 ??
 

EU airline : the chief pilot B757 is flying the B757 and B727.
He is TRI and TRE for both aircraft.

Is it safe ? I understand that the 757 is glass cockpit and the 727 is a "steam" aircraft ??

Any thoughts ??

Why not? I'm sure it's possible that some people do have problems switching between two different types, but many operators have their pilots fly pre-EFIS and EFIS aircraft at the same time.

At Southwest Airlines, you fly -200s as well as -800s and everything in between.

Why not? Many US airline pilots are in the USAF Reserve and fly anything from fighters to C5A Galaxy's at the weekends but fly civil metal for their day jobs.

Silly question. Would you have us surgeons only doing appendectomies in case we confused hystorectomies with tonsilectomies?
I fly several types of twin pistons and have no difficulty recognizing which one I'm in. I'm sure a 757/767 driver can cope with a 727 and/or a 737. They all go up if you pull back.

Yea and they all go down if you f@ck up!

It always used to be the rule that the CAA did not allow swopping between types - ok between "variants" subject to specified conditions.

I don't think that the comparison with general aviation types or what the military do is valid - we are surely talking about public transport here.

Whilst there are similarities between Boeing aircraft there are some fundamental differences between the 757 and the 727 - how about the number of engines for a start!!
The 727 is three crew and 757 is two crew. That's before we mention EFIS versus round dial.

I am not casting any aspersions on this particular pilot's ability but swopping between types is bound to amplify any potential for error which is, argueably, not acceptable for public transport operations.

Sounds like another case of "dumbing down" to me.

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BOTYR, (& everyone else)
May I suggest that there'a no such thing as a SQ?

I always thought that under CAA rules, you could fly different types subject to various recency and consolidation rules, provided the two types had the same number of crew members, and/or the same number of engines (I think). In a previous Company we were not allowed to fly 737s and 727s at the same time, but were allowed to fly 737s and 757s together.

That's only if they are a "common type" krisskross -such as 757/767 or A320/321. I wouldn't have thought the UK CAA would be too happy at mixing such different aircraft as the 727/757.

Just out of interest, does anyone mix the A320/A330, and how do you get on?

Drive car -ride motorbike - 4 pistons in one , 8 in the other, different controls, different thrust and accel. Different dials. Single crew, single genny, no back up systems.
Tend not to crash either of them and have reached senior age safely!

Bourbon-on-the-rocks.... "They all go up if you pull back" That ain't necessarily so, whether we're inverted or not. In fact, one of your brethren recently crashed a light twin on someone's roof, appears he didn't have enough fuel on board....now that's professional :rolleyes:

In your case, not only is a little knowledge a dangerous thing, but your arrogance astounds me. Are you one of the old school that bullies all those in the theatre ?

By the way, you're not going near my wife with a scalpel if you can't even spell hysterectomy. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/tosser1.gif

Smarties, to answer your question. It all depends on the ability of the pilot in question. For a sharp operator it should present no problem, and most chief pilots got there because of their ability.

Scally

DHL / EAT ?

(As far as my recall memory goes):
It is still allowed , many JAA licenses have multiple "heavy jet ratings".

The only thing which is not allowed anymore is to have combined jet and prop types (heavier types) whenever there are multiple heavier prop types.
E.g. B757/767 and DC3 and DC4 is not allowed
B757/767 and DC3 is allowed
B757/767 and B727 is allowed

If it is wise ? It is up to yourself.

If it is wise as chief ? Dito.


Cheer up !


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Shot One
That was my whole point, we would have been allowed to fly 757 and 737, had that come to be, but were not allowed to fly 737 and 727

Shot One,I fly A320 family & A330,mostly v.similar apart from obvious differences ,size,+ ground handling characteristics &landing flare the Airbus philosophy is workable.However some systems ;notably hydraulics & electrics do differ substantially so good training & awareness are vital.I believe most competent pilots can operate different types under normal conditions & in a familiar environment,but if it all goes pear shaped...? that to me is the acid test: as you know the A320 is a short range ac ,the A330 isn´t sh vs. lh can be very challenging.I have no experience on mixed Boeing flying ,but I do believe any mixed fleet flying increases risk,I´m not saying it´s unsafe at all ,but we must be aware & manage the risk.That´s all ,hope this wasn´t too boring.Yours Cisco

The person's familiarity with, and proficiency on type would be the determining factor I would suppose...not an ideal situation, but if carefully managed, about as safe as anything else we do in this industry