Heavy landing by HeavyLiftfreight International
 

On 01/09/2008 at about 0950UTC a Dc8-63F Registration A6-HLC owned by Heavy Lift Freight of UAE made a hard landing at El Fasher Airport(HSFS), Darfur, Sudan, while landing on Runway 23.The aircraft sustained substantial damage to the left main landing gear requiring complete replacement.The incident happened in good weather . The approach seemed to have been very high and fast as the aircraft landed well after second intersection of Runway 23. The aircraft is still at El Fasher airport.
If you areHIGH and HOT you dont lose anything by executing a go round!!!!!!!!!!!

Wise words Mate!!

I'm sure that the crew involved already knew that, mate.
Let's wait for the report (if there ever is one).

There is a biiig difference between knowing and doing!

If they were fast, they should have used the speedbrake.:)

Apparently the use of speedbrakes inflight on DC8-63 series is a serious no-no:=

or side slip it :}

Smoothie

Should have used reverse thrust.;)

Sicknote:ok:

Sometimes when visiting R & N forum, I have to glance at the top because I get the feeling of having inadvertently clicked myself into Jet Blast...

You're kidding, right? The DC-8 has/had no speedbrakes AFAIK.

Opening a "dud" thread and sifting through chaff disappoints me every time.

Edit: Airbubba, I missed the meaning in your post the first time.
Hey, that one made reading this thread worthwhile. Thanks!;)

CF-TIW, spoilers operating as speed brakes due to incorrect operation.

More like something's mechanically wrong with the airplane if the spoilers are able to be deployed inflight symmetrically. Mr. Douglas made it that way on purpose. And inflight inboard reverse with flaps extended is a no-no according to him as well, but you're not mechanically restricted from being able to do it. Strangely, slipping works quite well if you're a little high or fast. Emphasis on "just a little"...

There weren't too high!! The airport was too close!:}

Thanks for the wise words mate :ok:

Maybe they should have gone somewhere cold and low instead :suspect:

Reverse in flight
 

have flown the 'late' for years and haven't used reverse in flight for many years. Not pleasant. DEFINITELY not for use at 1/000ft or below.
A go-round is cheaper than gear replacement !...

The DC8-50 series inboard T/Rs could be used in-flight, but with rather dramatic results according to some of our ( North African ) pax comments. Useful if you found yourself rather high on approach. But then, the pax were rather happy to be returning from Chad. Allegedly. :sad::cool:

We're very conscientious of using inflight reverse for descent in pax operations, and fortunately, it's a rare occurrence. Haven't had to do it myself, anyway. The ride isn't so bad in either a -60 or a -70 series airplane as long as you're relatively slow, 250+/-, not much worse than use of spoilers in other aircraft. Generally, if we need to use them to make an ATC restriction (arrival at LAX during busy times comes to mind), we'll use them, but if you need them because you screwed up your descent planning, tough on you!

Once you're in a situation where you're landing that long, though, it's time to go around. You're WAY beyond any condition where use of reverse can be of any help.

Inboard T/R in flight are allowed, but they do cause fuel leaks at the pylons. It is best to be on speed and altitude the first time. Nothing like being 100 miles out and knowing you are going to have to go around, or do some 360's.

I have been humbled many a times by the mighty 8, yet I still love her....:O

Very true!

Never knew any of our folks using T/R inflight with our acft in the US or Saudi, series 50/61/63 & re-engined 70s:ok:

The DC-8 (50, 61, 62, 71 - That's all I flew) is all airplane. There's none better with jet engines! If you treat her right, there's NO problem getting in the proper position to land. If ATC won't cooperate, tell 'em. Don't let them fly your airplane...simple. The only time I used reverse thrust in flight was in the sim. The -71 required starting down EARLY. Without seeing any report on this incident, it's hard to tell what went wrong, but it would seem like poor planning.:=