DHL UK changes
 

DHL UK will "merge" with Air Contractors Ltd.
The Old CEO of ACL will run DHL UK(will become a UK branch of Air Contractors Ireland).
We have not been told or there crews will move over when the 727 will be phased out.
ACL mother company ,SAFAIR has also established closer ties with DHL Europe.
Good news for the People at ACL

Neil

I may be wrong but I suspect it is a way of getting around the FT limitations imposed (quite rightly) by the CAA. ie put them on the Irish register.

So much for JAR-OPS.

I might be wrong but i heard that DHL is consolidating it's airline which means by the end of 2002 all the airbus's operated by ACL which are owned by DHL will be re-registerd to 00 and operated by E.A.T. <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Doesnt sound right millAir,
SafAir ACL parent company is buying someof DHL A300 and B727 and then leases them back to DHL.
As far as i understand we are getting more A300 from DHL to operate.
We also start the Air Postal contract soon (first A/C to be reregisteerd in Jan.)


Neil

I see Neil Armstrong used the royal 'we' in his last posting, I always figured you worked for ACL
Neil. On this subject, if the aircraft go on the G-Reg, the crews will not get the 7on and 7off thats apparently very popular at ACL.

Yarpy

The current roster on the Air Contractors A300 is 8 on 6 off, starting on either a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. The 8 days must include a 'legal rest day' which for the purpose of this roster only is a minimum of 24 hours off (and is not the same as a day off which must include 2 local nights). The duty week starts at 0001 on Monday morning. Under IAA regs we can do 12 duty hours on a 3 - sector night, or 11hrs30mins on a 4 - sector night. The maximum allowed on any 8 day period is 65 rostered hours. The company can ask you to operate into a 9th day but this happens only rarely (twice in the last year for me) and is usually used to cope with last minute changes imposed by DHL.
The roster works very well despite a few initial misgivings and the opposition of a few within ACL.
The 727 work pattern is considerably worse, offers no roster stability, and is a good reason why we should ALL try ensure that the 8 and 6 continues. Unfortunately there is a train of thought within ACL that rather than try to improve conditions for everyone, it would be easier to put everyone on a 727-type roster i.e. equal misery for all. Not very enlightened thinking I fear!
Hope this os of use to you.

Neil i think you should go too flightwatch in Brusells and read the bulletons on the noticeboard.Yes ACL have the postal contract in France but all the airbus's that belong to E.A.T that ACL operate will be going back to Belgium by the end of 2002.

Yes Millair ,i just did that.
Your right, but i think some of the A300 might go to DHL Air UK.
Lets see what the next notice will say.

Neil

ANY OF YOU UK GUYS HERE ANY NEWS ABOUT DHL (US) AIRWAYS GETTING SOME OF YOUR 727 OR BUYING ABX?

Sorry, I am not sure I have grasped the thread of this posting. Is DHL Air (UK) to be folded into the ACL Aoc, and the aircraft operated on the Irish reg, because I can't see how they can operate on a UK Aoc and then use Irish FTL.
Regards to all.

S.S.

Reading this thread,it suggests that Safair/Aircontractors are manageing an operation for DHL/Uk at EMA,but surely the crews would need
a 'proper'CAA uk Licence before they could transfer themself to the G-Reg.Do they have these licences or is it going to be new recruitment.

Merry X-mas to all. If this is an Irish operation, what are the requirements concerning licenses? Would they give validations for one year?
Good luck to all, Regards

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OK, it's time for a reality check.
ONE: DHL Air is fully owned by DHL. DHL Air has a UK Air Ops Certificate with all the implications of UK FTL, etc. Twenty three 757s are planned to be operated, all on the DHL Air fleet, on the UK register. Current plans envisage six in operation by end March 2002. The first (CATIII and MNPS approved) 757 renders good service. The second is in the paint shop at Southend, having been delivered there from TLV two weeks ago. All management and technical positions within DHL Air are currently filled. However, more will become available as the airline expands. All, repeat ALL, pilot applicants will be required to have the appropriate UK CAA/JAA licences and will be required to undertake and pass the selection procedure. As always, a 757 type rating would be advantageous.
TWO: SAFAIR, the parent company of ACL is involved in a deal which will lead to the transfer of the A300s to EAT in Brussels. Crews currently on the A300 will have the opportunity to transfer to EAT, in Brussels, on EAT terms and conditions.
THREE: The 727 fleet will gradually be phased out. This will leave ACL operating the Aeropostal contract with five or less aircraft.
FOUR: Mr. Hugh Flynn is replacing Mr. Trevor Jones as Managing Director of DHL Air. Mr. Jones is returning to his position within DHL.
FIVE: That's it. Do we all get the picture now?

& SIX : ACL/Safair are to BUY the complete package of EAT's A300's & the 75's & lease them back to DHL-BRU / DHL-UK. Only 2 x 72's will be kept from ACL's 72 fleet & at present ACL owen 2 x A300's DHL & SAF - they will also be leased to DHL. As for the rest Aero Postal will be operated by their own a/c, completely managed by ACL. 2 x C130's are heading for the 'EI' reg the rest, heavens knows (wait for the next announcement). & Finally:
Seven: Most of ACL's UK Management which are based in 'EI' are heading to EMA to run ACL-UK (sorry) DHL-UK,
Who's gonna add Eight ?

Eight.
Suggest to the "tourists" heading to EMA from "EI" that they should have with them a return ticket.

GALHI has it about right. The A300s currently owned by EAT will transfer to the OO reg. & the 2 ACL owned units will be dry leased to EAT. The Aeropostal contract will be a dry lease/management contract on Aeropostal owned aircraft. The B727s will be phased out of the DHL network but some (2?) will remain & be operated ad hoc on the EI reg. & the ACL AOC will remain. DHL Air will remain a G- reg. operator and, as far as I know, will not operate either B727s or A300s. There is some confusion as to exactly what where & how regarding ACL & DHL Air, not helped by conflicting memos issued by each side, however the obvious rationalisation of the control & management of the DHL fleet can only increase the effectiveness & guarantee jobs for the ACL guys.

I'm sure that those higher up the food chain know exactly what's happening & we minions will find out in due time. It will be an interesting year but it has in my humble opinion, started on the right note.

Assumptions:
1) ACL is history and Key managers are bailing out
2) A300 future is limited and the key managers know this
3) Nepotism will be the criteria for transfer of the few from ACL to EMA
4) We're all doomed I tell ya!

Myrddin,

I do hope that was tounge in cheek, either that or you have a selective reading problem. The deal ensures that ACL retains it's AOC in Ireland and continues to operate, there are jobs available & nobody looses out. Keep the faith!

This is all very interesting, but you mention some Lockheed L382's how are they going to be operated on a british AOC when there none on the register and no one with CAA type rates <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Ramp....The question we need to ask ourselves is, is the IAOC of any use? Look at the facts carefully, the 727's are soon to accumulate sand in the desert and the A300's are worth more than cans than they are as aircraft. Most of the comments on this forum simply don't add up..serendipity springs to mind as does the feathering of nests for some. Post christmas is the tradional time for management to hand out dissappointments. I'm preparing, are you? <img src="eek.gif" border="0">