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captplaystation 23rd Jun 2008 17:41

They are currently investigating Ryanair ( which will obviously only affect the UK based guys on UK contracts).
As someone said, sounds like a new kid on the block out to impress and get that performance related bonus they dangled in front of him. Time for BALPA to earn their subs, or are Big Airways not being looked at too ?

3Greens 23rd Jun 2008 19:57

Captplaystation, BA is being looked at too, both CC and FC are being assessed in June.
What exactly do you expect BALPA to do about the taxman? I would be intrigued as to your response as i'm sure would BALPA. Or are you one of those "BALPA has never done anything for me" pilots? If you have some good ideas then forward them to your reps...

Phil1980's 23rd Jun 2008 20:22

Why do pilots get any wages tax free...I went to OZ for 6 months and didnt get any of my website earnings tax free...Why do you get tax free? I want to move to a country where the tax is better :(

Kiteflier 24th Jun 2008 12:22

If Ryanair is the main company that the IR are looking at then that doesn't surprise me. I always thought that it was uncompetetive letting one company pay have their salaries in allowances and therefore avoid paying tax and therefore the market rate of pay. Yes this is going to affect alot more than just ryanair, however, this does level the playing field a bit. Which in the long run is best for us all.

BIG MACH 24th Jun 2008 14:16

The best for us all, Kiteflier, would be if we paid no income tax at all. Wearing my anorak I can tell you that the total tax take for 2006/2007 was around GBP530 billion. Of this, 144 billion was income tax and the rest was from all the other myriad taxes sloshing around the system. A recent, well-researched book claimed that since Blair came to office, the government have spent GBP100 billion per year on consultants across all departments. Another study puts the cost of quangos, (Equal Opportunities Commission, Potato Marketing Board, Financial Services Authority, Regional Development Agencies etc) at GBP100 to 130 billion per year. Furthermore, Lee Rotherham and Matt Tyler wrote a book on behalf of the Taxpayers Alliance (check out website) identifying GBP101 billion of wasteful government spending. Our government spends a further GBP15 billion in subscriptions so that we can remain in the expensive, corrupt and undemocratic club known as the EU. Whilst there may be some overlap in these costs I am sure that a politician with the will could find GBP144 billion worth of savings, thus cancelling out the need for income tax altogether.
Scrapping income tax would be unpopular with the socialists, of course, since they see income tax as a means of punishing hardworking motivated folk who get on in life. However, the knock on benefits for the rest of us are legion. There would be enormous savings in the Treasury, since there would be no tax inspectors. Neither would we need 18000 people to administer the family tax credits. If there is no tax there can be no credit. The welfare trap, whereby the tax system makes it more profitable to stay on welfare, would be removed at a stroke. Wealthy folk would flood into the UK, increasing the cash in circulation and boosting jobs.
It is such a shame that we have a Conservative opposition whose big idea is to spend the same as McBroon. What have we done to deserve such a sorry bunch of MPs?

Pax Vobiscum 24th Jun 2008 15:01

You forgot the down side, BIG MACH, no more highly-paid jobs for accountants and lawyers devising tax avoidance schemes ... oh, hang on, there is no down side! :ok:

Sick Squid 24th Jun 2008 19:21

Wasn't he always in Number 10, Tony took 11 for the family if my memory serves me correctly?

It's personal taxation, therefore incumbent on the individual, not the company. Yes it will affect one's personal bottom line depending on the results but a surprising few seem to be of the rather dim mentality hinted at above that somehow the company will suffer in their stead. Only if they choose to, and that's as likely as Mugabe stepping down voluntarily.

Mr Angry from Purley 25th Jun 2008 16:31

UK Express Parcels carrier undertaking exercise in July. 20 crewmembers.
No food on aeroplane, living in Hotels and airport junk machines. If there was a case for a hike am pretty sure who would come out most deserving :\

Phil1980's 25th Jun 2008 16:48

I worked in the Duty-free shop for 2 years... Tax Free Perfume isn't actually tax free anyway...this is why you can purchase it within the uk...Basically the Duty Free shops absorb the Tax and still pay the government but give it you tax free...

World of Tweed 25th Jun 2008 17:57

I for one think it stinks.

Those of us who are employed by operators with night stops-ex UK /longhaul trips genuinely spend a portion of our pay Duty/FDA/Flight Pay/ Allowances whatever abroad making no contribution to the UK economy in that sense!

They simply do not have the Right to Tax that money...for my particular circumstances. End of story.

What I fear is that they will apply a blunt policy designed around examples in carriers where no ex-UK stops are involved and therefore deem all income taxable as it is intra-UK.

3REDS 28th Jun 2008 16:45

Go EAST my friends and avoid ALL tax.


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