Concur in this observation. Seems like (speculation!) that they landed with flaps zero, overran the rwy and while doing so the main gear did collapse.

Hate to admit to “speculation”, but this is an interesting case to me.

We have actually not had any real “reports” yet, other than journalists’ rendering of what they have heard/read in other media, and alas most likely misinterpreted.

Passengers tell that on cruise a/c became dark and stuffy (electrical failure?), and the captain obviously chose to descend/divert. After that, we have no reliable info.

Somewhere is stated that a/c landed on grass beside rwy, so it may not actually have been an overrun. Maybe hard to determine exact location from pictures, so I leave that to those who actually have been there.

Wheels may not have been locked down, but definitely out of bay as they were damaged on touchdown, as shown here in pic 27: http://fotogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/ga...763&p=27&rid=2

I do know that the captain happens to be very experienced on the MD-80, and thus believe he used all options available. After all, a/c was intact and all survived!

Was the acft dispatched with MEL items, why was there a total elec failure? Was there still Bat power?
Is the emergency ldg gear ext like on the 737 free-fall?
Just some questions.....

Happy that everybody made it alive, I think the Aviation Maintenance Company has to do some XXmaintenance on this one.....

QTA

If it was Boeing or Airbus the construction would have not
sustained the impact and we would probably have 126 losses.
Luckily it was MD-80 with high-mounted engines. Great job of the crew!

The aircraft overran the end of Rwy 36L by approx 200 metres. On Friday departures were using Rwy 36R. Approx 200 metres in front of the aircraft is a steep slope down on to a 13 lane road with the Radisson SAS hotel on the other side, approx 300 metres from where the aircraft stopped. The passengers and crew were very lucky (as were those on the road and in the hotel).

MD80: powered by the rh hyd sys and in case of emer pwr in use free fall of the gear and lock mechanism(main wheel well doors remain down in this case).jammed stabilizer.flaps should still work but no indic in cockpit about position of slats/flaps
if acft is in cruise config when total loss of AC occur,in order not to go out flt envelope,use FL15 max as you cannot trim anymore.

It sounds like they made a 'right' mess of it!!:ugh:

I bet 'SOPS' is a DIY tool?:hmm:

1 two go.:*

However, With a total elec power, there is no possibility to select flaps? I know you will have no indication, but they should work on ENG HYDR pumps..
What is the typical FAS of a Flap up LDG on the MD when you are Heavy?
Greetz, QTA

What an intelligent and informed reply,NOT.:yuk: