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Hot Rod 4th Nov 2006 08:46

Malaysian 777 engine problem in Stockholm
 
Yesterday a Malaysian 777 had to return after takeoff due to engine problem. Dumped fuel and landed without problems.

Some pictures and text (swedish) here: http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=740274

The aircraft arrived late from New York and one newspaper here in Sweden says that it was because of engine problems in New York.

Anyone with more info?

vapilot2004 4th Nov 2006 21:09

I can only add the obvious which is the aircraft would have been a B777-200ER. Rumour has it that they were headed to KUL which would have made it flight MH091.

Likely was reg 9M-MRI as they were just in EWR on 2/11 and scheduled to return to KUL via Stockholm on 3/11.

Longtimer 4th Nov 2006 23:47

Is it???
 
It seems like there is an increasing incidence of engine loss, is it better reporting or indeed more frequent events????

barit1 5th Nov 2006 00:22

And now this case of silver-rimming getting the Mumbai bash. :eek:

vapilot2004 5th Nov 2006 07:31

Nov 5,2006 - this just in........
 
Hi resolution photo added Nov 5 to the a.nut website here showing debris and smoke trailing from the port engine.

hetfield 5th Nov 2006 07:36


Originally Posted by vapilot2004 (Post 2946990)
Hi resolution photo added Nov 5 to the a.nut website here showing debris and smoke trailing from the port engine.

Looks like burned oil.

Load Toad 5th Nov 2006 07:42

Maybe looks like burned oil....does burned oil have rather large white looking fragments in it as you can see in the photo?

Bearcat 5th Nov 2006 07:43

it begs the question re the recent AD re having to use TOGA on the GE 90s......115000lbs of poke is an awful lot of energy to expend on every take off.

Or they GE's on the aircraft in ?

vapilot2004 5th Nov 2006 07:43

HF, Agreed on the smoke. :ok:

Just heard that this A/C may have just come off some heavy maintenance recently. (C or D check was due ?) only a rumour at this point, but from a reliable source. ;)

BC, pretty sure MHs 777s are all RR powered.

threemiles 5th Nov 2006 07:58


Originally Posted by vapilot2004 (Post 2947003)
HF, Agreed on the smoke. :ok:
Just heard that this A/C may have just come off some heavy maintenance recently. (C or D check was due ?) only a rumour at this point, but from a reliable source. ;)
BC, pretty sure MHs 777s are all RR powered.

Engines wouldn't be touched.

gas path 5th Nov 2006 08:45

They are Rolls Royce Trent 800's

suppie 5th Nov 2006 19:07

eng 1
 
Very nice picture on a.net...clearely that he blew nbr 1 eng...can't believe though that the capt did not get any indication in the cockpit:=

Zeffy 5th Nov 2006 21:14

vapilot2004
 
The airliners.net pic doesn't show any evidence of significant rudder/aileron deflections -- would the engine likely be developing normal or near-normal thrust?

JamesT73J 5th Nov 2006 21:44

The failing engine appears to be missing the circular 'collar' shaped structure (I don't know the correct name for it) just forward of the exhaust cone - are the remains of this perhaps what is being ejected aft?

HotDog 5th Nov 2006 21:55


can't believe though that the capt did not get any indication in the cockpit
He obviously did, otherwise they would not have returned to Stockholm. Looks like it happened just as they were retracting the gear.

hetfield 6th Nov 2006 07:51


Originally Posted by Zeffy (Post 2947925)
The airliners.net pic doesn't show any evidence of significant rudder/aileron deflections -- would the engine likely be developing normal or near-normal thrust?

I guess so. Until it was shut down by the crew.
Looks like a blown bearing.

Bus429 6th Nov 2006 08:15


Engines wouldn't be touched.
Threemile - engines not touched on a "C" check? Seems a bit strange to me.


Just heard that this A/C may have just come off some heavy maintenance recently. (C or D check was due ?) only a rumour at this point, but from a reliable source.
Vapilot - what relevance would a recent heavy maintenance check have in this regard? Although there is a chance of a maintenance error, this is a bit speculative.

BAe146s make me cry 6th Nov 2006 09:12

Threemiles

Sorry, engines not touched?? You've got to be joking!

Even the very latest FADEC Powerplants require attention,
AND certainly during a maintenance check!

BAe146??:{ :{

vapilot2004 6th Nov 2006 09:48


Originally Posted by JamesT73J (Post 2947951)
The failing engine appears to be missing the circular 'collar' shaped structure (I don't know the correct name for it) just forward of the exhaust cone - are the remains of this perhaps what is being ejected aft?

Good eyes there JT! I see that in the pic. That collar is the exhaust shroud - couple of inches forward are where the turbines reside.



Originally Posted by Bus429 (Post 2948426)
Threemile - engines not touched on a "C" check? Seems a bit strange to me.
Vapilot - what relevance would a recent heavy maintenance check have in this regard? Although there is a chance of a maintenance error, this is a bit speculative.

I know the aircraft was out of service for a while. The check was just a guess. Wasn't my intention to imply any faulty maintenance work. At least 99% of the time, things are better after major maintenance - not worse. :ok:

Could a D check be completed in 2 weeks on this aicraft?

bobdbuilder 6th Nov 2006 11:00


Originally Posted by hetfield (Post 2948394)
I guess so. Until it was shut down by the crew.
Looks like a blown bearing.

If the engine was shut down by the crew, why did they go dump fuel over the ocean?...risking loosing the second engine.

Id rather be on the ground having done an overwight landing rather then risk being over the ocean when i loose the second engine.

Or are procedures different on the 777?

Thanks


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