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luoto 10th Oct 2006 08:29

I must be away now so hopefully some one else can make any updates. Press conference being held shortly as well to update more and crash investigators and politicians are en route to do their thing.

Fornax 10th Oct 2006 09:39

There was another BA146 from Atlantic at the airport according to:
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2006/10/10/479300.html

A captain from Atlantic was in the tower (AFIS) as the aircraft landed, saying:"It looked like a normal landing".
Airport: http://www.ippc.no/norway_aip/280906...ENSO/enso.html

3 people is confirmed dead. 13 surviviors.
http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article765208.ece

Wasn't there some pics of an Atlantic 146 running off the RWY in Scotland(?) not long ago on these forums? Brake problems, or something...

midweeksaint 10th Oct 2006 10:07

Any idea which particular aircraft was involved?

Capt. Inop 10th Oct 2006 10:15


Originally Posted by midweeksaint (Post 2899954)
Any idea which particular aircraft was involved?

It was this one:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0921710/L/

bixman 10th Oct 2006 10:20

Flap-trouble?
 
There has been a couple of instances recently with flap-problems regarding Atlantic Airways' BAe-146's - I hope this is not related to that.

JEP 10th Oct 2006 10:41

According to the news - both the captain and F/O survived.

Safe-T 10th Oct 2006 11:44


Originally Posted by Fornax (Post 2899891)
Wasn't there some pics of an Atlantic 146 running off the RWY in Scotland(?) not long ago on these forums? Brake problems, or something...

This same plane (OY-CRG) had an incident some time ago (2 August 1989) at Vagar (FAE). Unstabilized approach, short and wet runway. According to the AAIB DENM report: Touchdown took place 430-450 metres down the 1250 metres long runway with a speed of 121 .68 knots (FDR read-out) or approximately 15 knots above the touchdown speed estimated by the aircraft manufacturer. As the reduced tyre friction on the wet surface produced insufficient retardation to stop the aircraft it was deliberately turned on to the high speed turn-off area where it collided with rising terrain. No injuries, some damage to the plane.

M609 10th Oct 2006 11:44

http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimed...pg_462597s.jpg
Image from Aftenposten.no

Just watched the press conference.

3 dead, one of them part of the crew.
12 survivors confirmed, but nr 13 has gone missing after the initial count by airport rescue services. Still unaccounted.

Of the survivors 6 has been sendt to the burn unit at Haukeland hospital in Bergen. (National burn unit)

Media has picked up on the restrictions put on "large aircraft" by the CAA regarding operations at Stord. No movements in vis <800meters or when the runway in contaminated with ice/snow.

Forensic specialist from the national criminal police branch (KRIPOS) has arrived at the crash site. AAIB on the way.

M609 10th Oct 2006 13:03

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel...1160480040.jpg

AAIB has arrived

White Knight 10th Oct 2006 13:31

I'm sure that the very solid build of the 146/Avro series has something to do with the fact that there are survivors here...

captaink 10th Oct 2006 13:36

Instead of being

Flagon 10th Oct 2006 14:00

Before 'captaink' kicks off yet another wild PPRune red herring expedition, this time on the 146, may I point out that:-
1) it was designed to operate without them, and
2) landing distances are calculated on this basis.

cameltrader 10th Oct 2006 14:14

Av Safety Network also has a report out on this accident. Here is the link:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20061010-0


This is tragic!

the_hawk 10th Oct 2006 14:29

Of the ten BAe146 hull-loss occurences on aviation-safety.net four are runway overruns. Just stating the fact. Three more are CFIT, and I guess no-one would deduce the BAe146 is prone to CFIT accidents.

fixaBAe146 10th Oct 2006 14:42


Originally Posted by White Knight (Post 2900284)
I'm sure that the very solid build of the 146/Avro series has something to do with the fact that there are survivors here...

I think you are 100% right there White Knight, build like a tank, strong plane keeps on going. Already 25years of BAe146 flying and a excelent safety record!:D

White Knight 10th Oct 2006 14:48

Well captaink,as you probably know, a lot of overruns have been by aeroplanes WITH reverse thrust:ugh:

The 146/Avro has sterling short field performance....

Wycombe 10th Oct 2006 14:52

.....ten losses (one of which was caused by a lunatic with a gun) from a fleet of 360 aircraft over 25 years is a pretty good safety record, by any measure.

This was Atlantic's longest serving 146, wasn't it.

Looks like an over-run turned into fatal accident by terrain, looking at the pics:(

M609 10th Oct 2006 15:09

The person missing has been found dead inside the wreckage. (source: NRK Television) Looks like the inital registration as survivor was human error by the airport staff.

They allso report that the national road administration (Vegvesnet) has arrived to measure the runway friction.
"To see if the runway was wet"

What good that is going to do 10 hrs after the crash beats me. Hopfully more to this then the media report..... :uhoh:

vector3 10th Oct 2006 15:33

Confirmed 4 dead now.Cpt and FO survived.Newspaper report possible tyre-burst on landing.

Doors to Automatic 10th Oct 2006 15:59

Another one where an arrestor bed would have saved lives (and probably the aircraft)


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