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G-CPTN 10th Aug 2006 04:42

Airport Security (Merged) - Effects on Crew/Staff
 
As of 03.30 BST, NO cabin baggage (other than flight documents) is permitted on-board aircraft leaving from Gatwick (and possibly other UK airports).

Said to be as a result of a threat of possible terrorist action against aircraft 'in flight'. All UK airports affected.

A 'substantial' numbers of arrests made around London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

A major terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight has been disrupted by police, Scotland Yard says.
It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on board aircraft in hand luggage.
During the night, police arrested a number of people in London after a counter-terrorist operation they said had lasted several months.
Police believe the attacks would have been particularly targeted at flights from the UK to the US.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...,00.html?f=dta

Police say they believe they have foiled a plot to smuggle explosive devices in airline hand luggage to blow up planes in mid-flight.
The targets are said to have been flights between the Britain and the US.
Overnight police have arrested a number of people in London.
The Met says the arrests are the culmination of a major covert counter-terrorist operation lasting several months.
It follows a pre-planned intelligence led operation by the Met's anti-terrorist branch and security service.
Police say they believed the aim was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on board the aircraft in hand luggage.
It is believed that the attacks would have been particularly targeted at flights from the UK to the USA.
"We would like to reassure the public that this operation was carried out with public safety uppermost in our minds," said a police statement.
"This is a major operation which inevitably will be lengthy and complex. We will provide further information as soon as possible."

luoto 10th Aug 2006 04:43

Hand Baggage clampdown
 
BBC Radio 4 claims that all hand baggage is not being allowed in the hold at LGW and (with implicaiton) other UK airports as part of a clampdown announced by the CAA a few hours ago. Nothing yet on the news sites I have looked at.

Airbubba 10th Aug 2006 05:20

'Plot to blow up planes' foiled

A major terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight has been disrupted, Scotland Yard says.
It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on aircraft in hand luggage, with flights from the UK to the US being targeted.

During the night, police arrested a number of people in London after a counter-terrorist operation they said had lasted several months.

Security at all airports in the UK has been tightened and delays are expected.

The Department for Transport said security at all UK airports has been increased.

Passengers on all flights will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK.

Only the barest essentials - including passports and wallets - will be allowed to be carried on board in transparent plastic bags.

"We hope that these measures, which are being kept under review by the government, will need to be in place for a limited period only," the statement said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

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These guys may be up to something in the U.S. as well:

2 Held on Terror Charges in Ohio

The Associated Press
Wednesday, August 9, 2006; 10:44 PM

MARIETTA, Ohio -- Two men were charged Wednesday with money laundering in support of terrorism after authorities said they found airplane passenger lists and information on airport security checkpoints in their car.

Deputies stopped Osama Sabhi Abulhassan, 20, and Ali Houssaiky, 20, both of Dearborn, Mich., on a traffic violation Tuesday. They found the flight documents along with $11,000 cash and 12 phones in the car, said Washington County Sheriff Larry Mincks.

Prosecutor Susan Vessels declined to say how the phones, cash or flight information involved terrorism.

Abulhassan and Houssaiky admitted buying about 600 phones in recent months at stores in southeast Ohio, said sheriff's Maj. John Winstanley. The men said they sold the phones to someone in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb.

Investigators going through the car after the pair were pulled over in Marietta, about 90 miles southeast of Columbus, also found a map that showed locations of Wal-Mart stores from Ohio through Kentucky, Tennessee and into North and South Carolina, Vessels said.

FBI spokesman Mike Brooks in Cincinnati said his office was notified about the arrests and an agent was investigating.

A message seeking comment was left Wednesday evening with Ray Smith, a public defender who represents Abulhassan. Houssaiky did not yet have an attorney, Vessels said.

Abulhassan and Houssaiky did not speak at a hearing Wednesday in Marietta Municipal Court in which a judge set their bond at $200,000, Vessels said. Another bond hearing was set for Thursday.

The charges allege the two laundered between $5,000 and $25,000, Vessels said. A conviction carries a maximum 18 months in prison and a $5,000 fine.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080902073.html

LTNman 10th Aug 2006 05:35

From Luton airport's website:

Members of the public not travelling today will not be allowed within the terminal building.

Jordan D 10th Aug 2006 05:48

British Airways Security Advice including a full list of what can and cannot be taken on board.

Jordan

G-CPTN 10th Aug 2006 05:59

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778615.stm

The Department for Transport has issued advice to air passengers after a suspected plot to blow up planes was prevented:
Following this morning's police action, security at all UK airports has been increased and additional security measures have been put in place for all flights.
With immediate effect, the following arrangements apply to all passengers starting their journey at a UK airport and to those transferring between flights at a UK airport.
All cabin baggage must be processed as hold baggage and carried in the hold of passenger aircraft departing UK airports.
Passengers may take through the airport security search point, in a single (ideally transparent) plastic carrier bag, only the following items. Nothing may be carried in pockets:
# Pocket-size wallets and pocket-size purses plus contents (for example money, credit cards, identity cards etc (not handbags)
# Travel documents essential for the journey (for example passports and travel tickets)
# Prescription medicines and medical items sufficient and essential for the flight (eg, diabetic kit), except in liquid form unless verified as authentic
# Spectacles and sunglasses, without cases
# Contact lens holders, without bottles of solution
# For those travelling with an infant: baby food, milk (the contents of each bottle must be tasted by the accompanying passenger) and sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight (nappies, wipes, creams and nappy disposal bags)
# Female sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight, if unboxed (eg tampons, pads, towels and wipes)
# Tissues (unboxed) and/or handkerchiefs
# Keys (but no electrical key fobs). All passengers must be hand searched, and their footwear and all the items they are carrying must be X-ray screened.
Pushchairs and walking aids must be X-ray screened, and only airport-provided wheelchairs may pass through the screening point.
In addition to the above, all passengers boarding flights to the USA and all the items they are carrying, including those acquired after the central screening point, must be subjected to secondary search at the boarding gate.
Any liquids discovered must be removed from the passenger.
There are no changes to current hold baggage security measures.
Regrettably, significant delays at airports are inevitable. Passengers are being asked to allow themselves plenty of extra time and to ensure that other than the few permitted items listed above, all their belongings are placed in their hold baggage and checked in.
These additional security measures will make travel more difficult for passengers, particularly at such a busy time of the year. But they are necessary and will continue to keep flights from UK airports properly secure.
We hope that these measures, which are being kept under review by the government, will need to be in place for a limited period only.
In light of the threat to aviation and the need to respond to it, we are asking the travelling public to be patient and understanding and to cooperate fully with airport security staff and the police.
If passengers have any questions on their travel arrangements or security in place at airports they should contact their airline or carrier.

Jordan D 10th Aug 2006 06:10

Report: BBC Radio News (0700 Bulletin).

Heathrow Airport suspended check-in to allow for passengers to clear the landside terminal area. Excess passenger build up on landside is posing a H&S threat, so they want to clear some to airside, before continuing checking. Extra staff are being brought in.

ENDS

Jordan

warkman 10th Aug 2006 06:13

DfT web site information

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ut_612280.hcsp

No liquids of any form to be allowed into the cabin from pax. points to a liquid explosive being the way in which they intended to blow up 20 planes (amount of planes not proved, only comments on news)

G-CPTN 10th Aug 2006 06:25

So is the THREAT as effective as the terrorism ACT?

Final 3 Greens 10th Aug 2006 06:37

Anyone know how this is affecting transfer pax, who are in the system with hand baggage from elsewhere?

If this continues for long, it will do the UK air transport sector no favours.

I need to book some flights this monring, was intending to use LHR as the transfer point, but no way now.

I'll route through AMS, PAR or FRA and so will thousands of others when the word gets around.

G-CPTN 10th Aug 2006 06:53

Latest BBC News 24 suggest that the terrorists were 'surprised' by intervention. The 'event' wasn't planned for today, but intelligence suggested that they were close to being ready, so the security services have swooped and arrested at least some of them.
The implication of this is that this level of security will extend beyond today . . .


(What a load of crap the presenters are talking 'between the facts'.)
David Learmount pontificating (about capability of airports to cope, rather than technical security matters).

Curious Pax 10th Aug 2006 06:55

Bizarre David Learmount quote on the BBC website: "This is the first time this measure has actually been taken. Certainly I've never seen hand luggage banned." - unless my memory is very faulty didn't this happen in the aftermath of 9/11 in the UK? I would have thought he would remember that.
These days I find it hard not to be drawn to the Hermann Goering quote in a JB thread: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpos...&postcount=174 - despite having no plausible reason not to think that this fuss is entirely justified.

tezzer 10th Aug 2006 06:55

And the news programmes, BBC particularily are talking it up as if it's the end of the World as we know it. All I hear is speculation and supposition !

Rhiannon 10th Aug 2006 06:58

US cable news channels are carrying the UK news programs live. Same breathless delivery as everywhere.

IB4138 10th Aug 2006 07:00

It would be of assistance, if the locos especially, let the traveller know what their policy is on hold baggage weight and in some case items checked in to the hold, with regard to charges, in view of these restrictions.

Unfortunately there will be some who will be rubbing their hands and seeing extra profit.

stevef 10th Aug 2006 07:01

Whilst I understand the reasons behind this, why would it not be possible to carry on board items purchased airside AFTER being security-checked? A five-hour flight without any reading material or non-airline bottled refreshment will be quite dire.
I imagine that Duty-free shops will be closed for a while.

G-CPTN 10th Aug 2006 07:01


Originally Posted by Gerontocrat
I've asked this question on another thread: Who is going to be responsible for damage or, more importantly, theft from checked bags. Many women carry their jewellery in hand baggage, as advised by the airlines.

They'll just have to WEAR it (or will worn jewellery be banned)?

sandy hills 10th Aug 2006 07:11

Wonder how this is affecting operating crew? How many of us carry heaven knows what in our flight bags. Will our laptops etc. be banished to the hold too.

G-CPTN 10th Aug 2006 07:12


Originally Posted by jimma
I think the media are doing their usual job of making everything seem 10 times worse than it actually is.

Together with the Government/Security Services. They have apparently 'surprised' the suspects in advance of any scheduled event, so the probability of any incident occuring TODAY is zero (IMHO). However, I wouldn't deny that a raised security level could dissuade terrorists from acting (they'll turn around and go home), but the 'response' is as crippling as would an event have been.

Final 3 Greens 10th Aug 2006 07:15

G-CPTN

but the 'response' is as crippling as would an event have been

You are correct, the question now is how long it takes to return to normality.


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