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Check 6 9th May 2006 23:59

Here is the link to the Iraq procedures, charts, etc.
http://ramcc.dtic.mil/iraq.htm
The FAA may approve flights into IRAQ if the aircraft are operating in support of the military. See SFAR 77 to 14 CFR Part 91.

Charterbroker 10th May 2006 11:36

"ironrebuttle"
 
Ironbutt dont know who "ol jack" is but i do know that a company such as DHL as with any multinational global organisation is aware of its responsibilities with regard to its staff and being owned by the german post office tends to focus the mind I would have thought, as they are after all a publically listed company ....ol jack and previous management seem to refer to the old days, but from where i am sitting they werent that much of a competitor in the old days a couple of CV580 and a few metros aint exactly powerhouse stuff...they seem to have a dozen or so planes now on the ramp so seem to be able to hold it all together..we are down here doing our dubai thing, so room for all of us methinks..

777badboy 10th May 2006 22:49

Maybe they should contact (heaven forbid) the press and receive film coverage, without libeling their employer. Publish the names of the managers who are threatening the pilots. It would probably "make good copy" on CNN and Al Jazeera.


when the sh&*&%* hit the turbofan that is what's going to happen. and a lot of people are going to go down .

i have recieved a few names already but i am not going public yet. hahaha

good day

ironbutt57 11th May 2006 05:33

Not too sure what your response has to do with the thread "charterbroker" but anyway regardless of past equipment etc..etc.. not involved anymore, but surely previous managers I worked for would have sorted out the issues before ops there would have commenced.. not in contact with these fellows, all I know about it is on this forum, sad to see what apparently has happened to an otherwise fine employer...dont quite understand what the "legal" complaint is...anyway good luck to the boys and hope they get sorted...I'm sure the "wet lease" boys will be happy to operate the flights for them...It was apparent when the 727's arrived on the AOC however, the destinations they would be serving...glad I had the opportunity to leave...not my cup of tea either, regardless of the pay and conditions

Best foot forward 11th May 2006 10:09

Well Stated SAPCO.

Togalk 11th May 2006 13:53

The simpliest way to make your case might be to check your insurance coverage. I am sure their precious planes are covered for flying into war zones, but I doubt the personal insurance does. So even if you get hit in the face by some flying glass and it takes your eye out, you (and your family) would be SOL.

thayrd 11th May 2006 20:10

As taken from the aip for afghanistan:

"gen 0.1.2 Flight safety risks and compliance with AIP Procedures

0.1.2.1 All operators are informed that there are ongoing military operations in Afghanistan and non-military flight operations could be at significant risk. There are continuing reports of indiscriminate small arms attacks on aircraft operating in Afghanistan. Operators undertake flights within the Kabul FIR at their own risk"

I am sure that similar wording applies to the AIP.s for Iraq. just dont have them at hand at present.

"Notam for OAIX BAGRAM

A0198/04-Bagram airfield (BAF). If BAF is under attack remain/attain at or above FL250 and/or outside 15NM of BAF until directed by ATC. Wie until perm".

All companies operating into Afghanistan or Iraq have to sign a statement of release of liability before they can operate.

Interesting?


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