PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Rumours & News (https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news-13/)
-   -   Iberia A320 Emergency Landing At Dublin (https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/224486-iberia-a320-emergency-landing-dublin.html)

DUB-GREG 4th May 2006 11:14

Oh and ive been told by a mate that the airbus is currently on the apron beside peir C.

Probably awaiting an IAA inspection!

Cheers.
GREG B.

Irishboy 4th May 2006 11:16

Photo here

jamesiek 4th May 2006 11:18

Research!
 
I was not aware that such a site existed with that type of information about the amount of firecrews etc and the only reason i posted that was to find the information which i have now done!!

dv8 4th May 2006 11:46

We were the a/c that landed after the A320
We informed GND of the flames & smoke emanating from the APU
The fire services were on the scene PDQ contrary to another poster
From our point of view what took way too long was to order the evac When it did come it was the fire services that suggested it to ATC who then told the Iberian to shut down and evacuate
Exellent call not to use rear slides

chiglet 4th May 2006 11:58

AFAIK, it is SOP for the "Outside" FB to come to the Airport in the case of "Full Emegency AGI etc [at least at Manch]. They are there to provide "Domestic" cover and extra pumps [I think]
watp,iktch

cheekycapt 4th May 2006 12:30

Sorry I made a mistake last night when I said the plane landed on runway 16/34 ! From where i was at the time of the incident it appeared like the plane had landed on runway 16/34 ! ! 16/34 was in operation for most of yeaterday! The Iberia actually landed on Runway 10/28 and was taxiing to its stand when it grounded to a halt ! I saw a small cloud of smoke coming form the rear of the plane and then an evacuation took place within a minute or two ! An Airport Fire jeep was first on the scene followed by the airport police and gardai ! An ambulance followed these but it took a while before a Fire Engine was deployed to the scene ! Id say it was nearly 10mins before one was deployed ! Serious questions are to be asked of the Airport Fire Service on why it took so long for a Fire Engine to be deployed ! The papers are exaggerating the incident big time ! What I have described above is exactly what happened !

noullet 4th May 2006 15:39

Iberia incident
 
I assume that the crew pulled the APU fire handle? Hopefully, if it was not contained by that action, it was extinguished by the fire brigade. Must have been one helluva fire.

Regards,
noullet

Pigsfly 4th May 2006 17:17

10 Mins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Is this for real, 10 Mins waiting for a fire Tender, serious questions to be asked if it is. Good work that incident ended without serious damage to persons. Will await this AAIB report with interest.

celtic mech 4th May 2006 20:15

"I assume that the crew pulled the APU fire handle?"

There is no fire "handle" on a 320! a simple switch does the job

lesser weevil 4th May 2006 21:15

my friends were on the plane, they say the newspapers have made a big deal about it, and there was really no hassle at all.

the first they knew about it was the plane didn't move from the runway and there was foam on the windows. One of the passengers commented that it seemed odd for them to be washing the plane while they were still on the runway...

They were told to remain in their seats with their seatbelts fastened, while the cabin crew went up and down the aisles, etc. Those who stood up were told to sit down.

Suddenly the crew told them that they were evacuating, the doors were blown off, they were told to run. Some people tried taking their handluggage down but were told (sensibly!) to stop.

They all got out of the a/c and were taken inside and given sandwiches and muffins and tea.

Bit of anticlimax, I would have said.

The picture in some newspaper shows three young men and the title under it says "Shock: ...." and their names. The three young men just look like they're laughing.

Humph.

Emergency :confused:

flowman 5th May 2006 04:40

I was on duty when the call was received from Dublin to close the airport.
The explanation we received here was that the aircraft was parked on the taxiway but the evacuated passengers were wandering around on the manouevring area. It was therefore considered unsafe to continue normal operations. The airport was only closed for about half an hour.

Dublinflyer 5th May 2006 13:33


Some people tried taking their handluggage down but were told (sensibly!) to stop.
Without going too of topic, is it common for people in an emergency evac to try open the overheads and get their dutyfree :confused:
I was involved in an evac in the USA a number of years ago via the slides and witnessed the same. :mad:

Speed of Sound 6th May 2006 06:42


Originally Posted by dv8
We were the a/c that landed after the A320
We informed GND of the flames & smoke emanating from the APU
The fire services were on the scene PDQ contrary to another poster
From our point of view what took way too long was to order the evac When it did come it was the fire services that suggested it to ATC who then told the Iberian to shut down and evacuate


Originally Posted by cheekycapt
and then an evacuation took place within a minute or two ! An Airport Fire jeep was first on the scene followed by the airport police and gardai ! An ambulance followed these but it took a while before a Fire Engine was deployed to the scene ! Id say it was nearly 10mins before one was deployed ! Serious questions are to be asked of the Airport Fire Service on why it took so long for a Fire Engine to be deployed ! The papers are exaggerating the incident big time ! What I have described above is exactly what happened !

Well both of these posters can't be right! :eek:

SoS

cheekycapt 6th May 2006 18:20

Well i saw the incident with my own two eyes ! I would like to know what type of Aircraft and airline Dv8 was on ! There was an aircraft parked on the taxiway a good distance behind the A320 ! I will not say what aircraft or airline it was until Dv8 can tell me what type of a/c and airline he was on ! If he cannot confirm this then he is not telling the truth !

jondc9 7th May 2006 00:07

Hi:

Does anyone know:

1. Was the fire external to the protected compartment housing the APU?

2. Was the APU started prior to landing or after landing?

3. Was there a fire warning in the cockpit for the apu?

4. I haven't flown the Airbus, but many other jets offer an autoshutdown of the apu upon fire warning? Is this the case on the airbus?


From the photo, it seems as if there wasn't any smoke damage or flame damage to the aircraft, is that the case as you all see it?


I can think of a number of uncommanded or unneeded evacuations in the US due to "torching" during start of the engines. I witnessed something akin to this, torching during engine start of MD80. Someone on the ground yelled fire and the crew shot the bottle even though the flame was outside of the protected area. The nacelles actually swelled up momentarilly. The bottles did no good of course.

Another mechanic was also on the radio yelling NOT TO SHOOT THE BOTTLES and that the engine was just torching during start. (other procedures should have been used)


Could this situation be something like that? Observed torching of apu coupled with other factors? Misinterpreting the danger? Perhaps difficulty with common language?


wondering?

jon

dv8 7th May 2006 00:09

Type DHC8-400
Landed 18:55
Vacated at E6
Reported flames and smoke 18:56 to DUB ground 121.8
Stopped taxing short of P2 to keep away from danger and allow P2 clear for emergency services
ATC on request of fire services called A320 to evacuate at 19:02
Once evacuation completed taxi to stand
On stand at 19:08

Anything else Cheeky?

CamelhAir 7th May 2006 10:06


If he cannot confirm this then he is not telling the truth !
Hmm, let me see. Proven annorak bull$hitter vs actual airline pilot on the scene. Get off the stage cheekywannabe.

i_need_cider 8th May 2006 23:23

Dub has a full fire and emergency servive, the local fire brigade will always respond to emergencices in the airport as a rule of thumb that's why surrounding areas go on alert to provide cover for the tenders dispached to Dub

runawayedge 9th May 2006 15:41

For what it's worth and if wrong will stand corrected. My understanding is that in the event of a full scale emergency being declared the 'domestic' services are immediately called for support. Upon their arrival the domestic fire chief will assume command of the incident, and the airfield fire services take instruction from him/her. The field will close if the required fire cover is not available to traffic, or obviously if the incident is of such a scale that the airport requires closing.

Few Cloudy 9th May 2006 16:07

Its standard
 
If an airport has some of its fire resources tied up - or even might do, it is quite standard to ask the local civvies to back up.


All times are GMT. The time now is 13:49.


Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.