Loss of both tires on one bogey suggests debris

- OR -

perhaps it was an overheat due to dragging brakes causing the wheel fuse plugs to blow, flattening the tires - which don't last long at takeoff speeds.

here is the URL for the transcript from CNN coverage of the event.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...itroom.03.html


the only thing I would really want to change is that subsequent images did show the right hand (starboard) thrust reverser deploying to assist in directional control. as this image was not available during live coverage, I would want to ammend the one statement near the end.

does anyone remember the dc10 tire problems about 20 years ago? anti skid lines hooked up backwards?

regards

jon

jondc9:

Air France operates 777 daily service IAH-CDG. In fact, AF33 was scheduled to take off yesterday very, very close to the reported departure time of CO3161. It's very feasible they "crossed paths" so to speak, and yes, it would be highly ironic if some bits from the frogjet chewed up the tyres of the junglejet. :ouch:

As one who has spent perhaps too much time there, one submits that 29C isn't that hot -- for Houston. ;)

I didn't have access to a telly at the time all the emergency gear was whizzing by, but I did surf past CNN on the car's XM satellite radio. I didn't hear anything there, though CNN's Headline News was offering live coverage. Might that have been you on that channel? If so, well done! :ok:

HI Howlingwind

and thanks for telling me about Air frances' flights out of IAH...and yes for HOUSTON 29c isn't that hot. I never knew what "humidity" meant until I went to Houston one summer.


I was speaking with Wolf Blitzer which is usually on regular CNN. So if you heard Wolf, you heard me. I do imagine headline cnn might have taken wolf's feed but am not sure.

all the best

jon

jondc9:

If Wolf's show started at 7 p.m. EDT, I probably did miss it. Headline News was covering it before 5:30 p.m. local (6:30 p.m. EDT), though I believe they were just picking up a feed from one of the Houston stations.

Thanks for the transcript. It makes for good reading. :cool:

You mean Wolf Blitzed? He's the worst. Sorry

Middle Seat:

Exactly. Listen to the song by Don Henley, former Eagles singer.

The song is called "Dirty Laundry". "...she can tell you 'bout a plane crash, with a gleam in her eye...get the widow on the set, we need dirty laundry...".

The First Officer on that jet, if he/she has a spouse at home raising a baby, can often collect US government food stamps to help feed the family. And the dental/medical (non-covered) deductables are about 20%, in addition to the rest. But if he/she tells the media and it is reported, the pilot can be fired (sacked) from the job. This almost happened years ago to a pilot with Northwest Airlink.

Granted it isn't as obnoxious as Fox, CNN=Circus News Network.

It's very easy to miss a deflated tyre on the 145. This leaves the other tyre to do all the work and it wont last long.
Our company always changes both wheels if there is a deflation.
I've done at least one t/o and two ldgs on 3 mainwheels.

The trick is to keep an eye on the brake temps. If one is still at the bottom after you landed- you got a flat! It may well look normal-even if you kick it-on the walkround so that low brake temp is the only clue you get that you arte about to do a sector with three working tyres!!

brainfade:

well said. when a tire looks flat, its the one next to it that is bad used to be one rule of thumb...I wish all planes had pressure gauges on the tires that could easily be seen while doing the walkaround and telemetered to the cockpit too.


MIDDLESEAT: one thing I would really like you and others on the forum to do is give specific methods of improving news coverage of aviation incidents etc as they happen.

Saying CNN isn't as obnoxious as FOX is high praise, but somthing meaningful would be helpful too.

Remember, MOST of the people watching the news are not ATP's or Mechanics or F/a's. And seeing a plane making a landing is cool, even if it looks as routine as any landing.

Please, help me help the news industry to do a better job.

the URL to the transcript is above, my apology for not seeing the right thrust reverser deploy is explained. I look forward to your comments as it pertains to this incident and in general.


jon