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seymore butts 8th Mar 2001 14:43

Not looking too promising is it?

Has anyone in U.K. been given notice yet? cos the 3 months notice starts once it has been given in writing and cannot be back dated.

I hear the Irish LGW based cabin crew, which were earlier told they were moving to SNN have now been told the SNN thing is not happening and have been offered moves to LHR.

Latest announcement date is the 15th March, however we do close on the 12th, so make of that what you will.

A couple more U.K. drivers drifted off to E.J. this week, many more to follow I guess.

Mad Mitch 8th Mar 2001 19:13

Heard the FOD and the Chief Pilot were flying together yesterday and couldn't fill in the Tech Log between them. They did three trips and all the pages were incorrect.
Crew taking over could not make head nor tail of it. Shame they're both so quick to pull us guys up when we make minor mistakes in the TL.

Wing Commander Fowler 9th Mar 2001 02:02

Seymore - LGW closes on the 12th but the operation is to continue up until the 2nd April with the one remaining aircraft based in Toytown. Look forward to a few weeks of well earned rest. Didn't know that about the LGW cabin crew - thought there were only two that were staying anyhow??

upfront 9th Mar 2001 05:45

W C Fowler me old buddy, I thought with all your inside contacts that you would be well up on all developments (even more so when blonds are involved and i'm not talking about your tea)

Metal Mickey, I think that you will have to sell the Merc to fund the Chip Van venture, would this make sense to the BANK MANAGER!!!

P.S do not forget to change your e-mail address from hotmail!


Billy the Kid 9th Mar 2001 14:09

Just checked out the Virgin Express web-site.

WWW.virgin-express.com

It has an Irish aircraft operating BRU-LIN-BRU. If you remember the slots are restricted to one per company per day and there are still two services down to milan.

I wonder is this an unforeseen error(which wouldn't suprise me), or is a plan starting to come together, I hear VEX will be running 11 ships and are re-entering the charter market. I find it hard to beleive they can do a larger progamme with fewer aircraft.

[This message has been edited by Billy the Kid (edited 09 March 2001).]

EI - E I - O 9th Mar 2001 14:57

You might be correct,Billy the Kid, word is, there are some prominent ex-TLA people, no names mentioned, in the background, consulting VEI, and they will have their own influences on how an airline can make money!

Good luck to them, if it helps keep VEI operating!

You may even see an additional feet type and keeping in line with the traditional charter aircaft types????

Wing Commander Fowler 9th Mar 2001 19:08

Ei old chap - how many toes would there be on those "additional type FEET"? Six or more likely three (Cloven variety)

:rolleyes:



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Getafix 9th Mar 2001 20:14

Guys for God sake wake up and smell the roses
VEI is dead in the water.
Found a chip van ready to "GO".
The redundancy will go to the first bag of spuds.
Metal Micky will you buy the first battered sausage!!!!!!

Wing Commander Fowler 9th Mar 2001 20:32

Seamus Shortly's got one of them battered sausages..... Allegedy.

:)



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V1mcg 9th Mar 2001 23:21

THE LATEST IS THAT VEX HAVE SIGNED A WET LEASE WITH VEI TO OPERATE TVN ON THE LIN ROUTE FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

The latest watershed day as you guys know is the 15th.

Do they pay sector pay for working in a Chippie van????????????

I know, call it the Virgin Chippie,
and only use GREENISLE products.

PercyDragon 10th Mar 2001 00:02

Metal Mickey and Getafix.

Your Chip Van idea does betray a remarkable degree of innocence. Out here in the real world you cant just go and start up a mobile chip shop. You have to apply for a truly staggering variety of permits and government/EU licences. You will also have to enrole yourself on numerous 'Food and Hygene Courses' that will make your Initial IRT look like a breeze. But worst of all you will find that you will inevitably come across the local 'boys' who feel that they are entitled to running the chip van franchises where they have been happily operating for many years, and will somewhat resent some fresh faced ex airline pilot infringing on their pitch. To illustrate my point I would remind you of the infamous Glasgow Burger Wars, which tooke place back in the mid 90s. This little skirmish resulted in a variety of corpses found lying around the Glasgow docks area, not to mention a fire bombing campaign of numerous domestic premises.

Stick to flying. Trust me on this one.

Percy dragon.

Billy the Kid 10th Mar 2001 00:19

November to operate Linate, surely not just two sectors! I would have thought that would work out expensive and tying up an aircraft to do just that rotation.
Maybe its business as usual with the CPH-BRU-MAD-BRU-LIN-BRU-CPH, that would make more sense and cause the least hassle.

V1mcg 10th Mar 2001 01:47

Yeah Billy I only mentioned the LIN but I think the rotation you mentioned is the full plan.

The question is what will happen next.

I know the Gatwick Cabin crew finish on the 12th and as there is no new SNN operation I think they have been offered Heathrow with VEX. I know that some of the girls are not happy about this.

I also heard that all the UK pilots have been offered slots at VEX, Is this true?

P.S. I hope the sailing is good Billy!!!

Fuwhead 10th Mar 2001 04:20

I am a UK pilot for VEI and I have been offered VEX at LHR. Good luck to all the guys going to EZY and GO.

Billy the Kid 10th Mar 2001 05:36

V1mcg thanks mate, jump in my new skiff in about 10 hours time, sh!tting myself, cause I'm suppose to be in charge,but there you go. Pics to come. :) :) :)

shedsinstead 10th Mar 2001 16:06

Here this tread is getting too long with no more info from toy town. How about organising another piss-up. This time down LGW area where most of us aclimatised our livers for VEI. How about a farewell piss-up at the SIX BELLS SAT 24TH 7PM.
Post your intent to join up
Regards
Maybe the last real session.......
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Angus Meecoat 10th Mar 2001 16:08

Whose going to be left to fly TVN on these VEX rotations unless maybe they keep the Kiwis on there in BRU.

Sadly unless this is finally resolved by the 15th there is going to be nobody left there by the 16th. Guys have waited over three months and unfortunately can't wait around much longer. The Irish guys do not get paid after 2nd April. They must then have to give answers to the offers they have.
To be fair I think management know this, but I'm just not sure if they realise how serious the situation will be after the 16th
and I wonder if the new investors are aware of this also.
It will be to late and very unfortunate if the deal is done a week later.

Angus Meecoat 10th Mar 2001 16:14

I think its pretty safe to assume I wont be flying on the 24th (sic) so count me in.

Fuwhead 10th Mar 2001 16:40

as long as those "Brussels Sprouts" haven't got me going round the holding pattern at Biggin ad nauseum, I'll be there on the 24th

Perry Scope 10th Mar 2001 22:00

Gadzooks !! looks like we are all snookered here by a distinct lack of information from the top. Whilst everyone presumably understands the need for confidentiality in the sale of the Company, the least our lords and masters could do is provide us with some (any) information to keep us going. The fact that very few people have left voluntarily is testament to the loyalty that we all feel towards our workmates and the fact that we want to see this "new company" succeed.

However, it is getting to the stage where it will be too late. Hate to say it, but you need pilots to run an airline and there won't be any left by the end of the week. Don't say we didn't tell you !!

Now that I have that off my chest - drink anyone ?


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