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ORAC 3rd Feb 2005 09:38

IL76 down near Khartoum
 
BBC: Seven killed in Sudan plane crash

A cargo plane has crashed outside the Sudanese capital Khartoum, killing all seven people on board.

Six eastern Europeans and one Sudanese are reported to have died in the crash at about 8am local time (0600 GMT).

The cause of the accident, which happened as the cargo plane was coming in to land, is still unclear.

"It was a cargo plane... Before it could land in Khartoum it crashed," Civil Aviation Minister Ali Tamim Fartak told Reuters news agency.

The plane is reported to have been travelling from Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates was thought to be carrying aid supplies for the Darfour region.

One official said the pilot had changed his course before the crash, moving the plane away from an inhabited area.

catchup 3rd Feb 2005 10:03

Just in the radio. Heard about low/no fuel.

regards

ORAC 3rd Feb 2005 10:05

KHARTOUM, Sudan (Reuters) -- A Sudanese cargo plane has crashed near the capital Khartoum, killing all the crew -- one Sudanese and six Russians, the air freight company said.

The Russian-made Ilyushin 76 was flying from Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates when it crashed in the desert, said Gism al-Khaleq, chairman of Sudanese cargo company Air West, which owned the aircraft.

Civil Aviation Minister Ali Tamim Fartak said the plane had been scheduled to land at Khartoum before flying on to Nyala, the capital of South Darfur state in the far west of Sudan. He told Reuters the plane was probably carrying aid.

It crashed at about 9 a.m. local (0600 GMT) in the desert about 50 km (30 miles) from the capital.

Fartak said rescue and investigation teams were on the site.

ORAC 3rd Feb 2005 11:48

The captain reported an emergency a few minutes before the Ilyushin-76, which entered service in 1984, went off radar screens, said Civil Aviation Authority director Abu Bakr Jaafar.

"He (the captain) said there was something wrong with the fuel system ... A few minutes later it disappeared from the screens," he told Reuters. "Of course, it is too early to tell what is the cause," he added.

Phileas Fogg 3rd Feb 2005 12:00

I was of the impression that IL76's were made in Uzbekistan. Perhaps some, certainly not all, might have been made in Russia.

Jacamar 3rd Feb 2005 15:53

I didn't know Sudan had a radar. Last time I overflew the region in the nineties, it was entirely proceedural. Any developments since then.

Jac

readywhenreaching 3rd Feb 2005 21:21

www.jacdec.de
just reported
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DATE: 03.02.2005
LOCAL TIME: 09:00
LOCATION: near Khartoum_
COUNTRY: Sudan
AIRLINE: East / West CargoTYPE: Ilyushin IL-76TD
REGISTRATION: ST-EWB
C/N: 23438122
AGE: -
OPERATION: INC
FLIGHT No.: -
FROM: Sharjah
TO: Khartoum
VIA:_-
OCCUPANTS:_
PAX: 0
CREW: 7
FATALITIES:_
PAX: 0
CREW: 7
OTHER: 0
INJURIES:_
PAX: _0
CREW: 0
OTHER: 0
DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT:_destroyed
On a relief flight with supplies for the people in Darfur Region (on behalf of U.N.), the aircraft crashed 15 km from Khartoum airport. There were no survivors. According to early reports the aircraft may have run out of fuel.
SOURCE(S): Aviatsaya.ru + Yahoo-News

best
readywhen

TURIN 3rd Feb 2005 21:44

Strange (IF NOT SURPRISING) that prooners are more interested in where the a/c is built than offering condolences to the family and friends of the victims here.

RIP.



Where are C130's built by the way!!!:sad: :hmm: :rolleyes:

barry lloyd 3rd Feb 2005 23:27

IL-76 DOWN
 
Phileas Fogg.

You are correct. All IL-76s were built in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, well out of the reach of western bombers - or so I was told when I visited the factory!

TURIN

I too, find it surprising that there are so few comments about this, particularly since it was running a mercy mission, but I suppose it's a question of who's flying it, and where it happens. I guess there aren't too many Sudanese/Russian contributors amongst the prooners.

C-130s are built (mainly) at Marietta, Georgia.:ok:

etrang 4th Feb 2005 06:15

Condolences to all. RIP


And, when the plane was built, Uzbekistan was indeed part of the USSR.

Sobelena 4th Feb 2005 06:38

Well said TURIN ! The very point somebody got slaughtered for on the C130 thread. I have found that on PPRUNE if the crew aren't European or North American there's a general apathy.

Phileas Fogg 4th Feb 2005 07:48

Etrang,
Yes, Uzbekistan was part of USSR but it was never part of Russia!

Others,
And, having been in Tashkent, Ukraine etc. many a time I do have every sympathy with the people and for this reason, I will not, unlike others, speculate on the cause(s) of this incident. I was merely pointing out the innacuracy of the report.

BEagle 4th Feb 2005 08:26

My sincere condolences to all the families and friends of those involved - whether Uzbek, Russian, American, European, Asian, African, Australian or Martian it makes no odds. All will be suffering grief.

I think you'll find the main reason for the volume of comment on the Hercules thread is that many PPRuNe PPeople were personally affected by their close association with those involved in the crash north of Baghdad.

Phileas Fogg 4th Feb 2005 08:30

And just go back to the TU134 & TU154 incident(s) over Russia, that thread turned into a 'circus'.

Voel 4th Feb 2005 12:54

Media will always report on "disappeared from radar" even though ATC has no radar and "witnessess saw an explosion in flight" even if there was no explosion.

Konkordski 4th Feb 2005 13:15


Media will always report on "disappeared from radar" even though ATC has no radar

Sometimes people on this site can be as ill-informed about "the media" as they claim the media is about aviation.


"[The pilot] said there was something wrong with the fuel system ... A few minutes later it disappeared from the screens."

- quote from Sudanese Civil Aviation Authority director Abu Bakr Jaafar



Now if the Sudanese CAA thinks it disappeared from radar screens then it's hardly the fault of "the media" is it? Or perhaps the CAA thinks it was watching the aircraft on television? :rolleyes:

Nineiron 4th Feb 2005 13:42

So the pilot reported 'a problem with the fuel system' . Why is there the assumption that the aircraft ran out of fuel? What kind of fuel system does the IL76 have? Crossfeeding or tank/engine for landing? If the boostpumps fail, can those engines suck?
Will there be any investigation, or have that crew died in vain? There are a lot of IL76 crews about that should know what happened. Thats how aviation gets safer.

hobie 4th Feb 2005 19:54

ASN report ....

http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20050203-0


The Ilyushin cargo plane departed from Sharjah at 03:30 carrying 46 tons of humanitarian aid for refugees in the war-torn province of Darfur. An intermediate stop was planned in Khartoum before it would continue on to Nyala, Sudan. The pilot established contact with the Khartoum control tower at 8:00 and stated that the aircraft had developed problems with the fuel system. The pilot was advised to make an emergency landing at Aad Babaker, about 15km west of Khartoum. The aircraft did not make it and crashed and broke up in the desert. The airplane was reportedly operated by Air West, but probably owned by sister company East/West Cargo, which operates several Il-76 aircraft.

Mark Lewis 4th Feb 2005 20:42

Not sure if Sudan has radar at the moment or not, however it very nearly had a full system installed a few years ago. I believe the components were all delivered and were going through the installation process, before they had to be removed due to a lack of payments from the Government.

Fox3snapshot 4th Feb 2005 21:17

Definately and investgation being conducted, right back to its point of departure.

It is very sad when these things happens as there is a reasonable chance that you have talked to the crews over the years, in this case highly probable as they left from here.

The Eastern Europeans are typically the friendliest and most accomodating operators and never argue with instructions issued, unlike some of the Western and Middle Eastern operators. Whilst language issues have previously clouded the operations over the years, this has improved drastically.

My deepest sympathy to the families and friends of the aviators and crew of AWB.

:(


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