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Honiley 20th Mar 2002 02:30

AFX AOC Suspended
 
Not sure if this is old news but AFX have just had their AOC suspended.... .. .I think the industry is alot safer without chaps like PB!

CR2 20th Mar 2002 10:40

Any details?

raitfaiter 20th Mar 2002 12:58

Do the CAA publish this sort of thing in an open format? If so, where?

Kalium Chloride 20th Mar 2002 13:20

CAA says not suspended ??!!

The Big Easy 21st Mar 2002 02:40

Going, Going.... Gone. No cash! ! The convoy is already winging its way down the M3 to Bournmouth.. .. .TBE.

allthenines 21st Mar 2002 02:50

Who's AFX? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />

non sched 21st Mar 2002 03:04

Allthenines. .. .Air Freight Express. 747-200's between US and Heathrow. Maybe some other stuff.

s.lindburgh 21st Mar 2002 14:51

Does anybody have any good info on this company, ie specific routes, number of employees, money behind the operation, key names etc etc I would be particularly interested to know if their AOC is suspended or has actually been withdrawn. .. .tks in anticipation. .. .ps have also copied same to Freight Forum. . . . <small>[ 21 March 2002, 10:59: Message edited by: s.lindburgh ]</small>

non sched 21st Mar 2002 15:59

S lindbergh. .Go here. .<a href="http://www.afx-747.com/" target="_blank">http://www.afx-747.com/</a>. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

s.lindburgh 21st Mar 2002 16:30

non sched tks for web site, rather tatty unless u want to buy 3 mini mouse mats and get 1 absoloutly free!!!!! I will keep trawling.. .. .cheers. .lindburgh

non sched 21st Mar 2002 17:08

Lindburgh. .. .Well, Philip Bowles started it up, Michael Chowdry tried to buy it at one time, they had runs to the Middle East and Far East as well as the US and they operated 3 747-200's. Sorry you didn't like the web site. If you hurry you could get the last of those limited edition mugs. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Google is a wonderful thing </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">

s.lindburgh 21st Mar 2002 17:19

non sched. .. .Not your fault their web site is cheap and nasty.. .Seriously though I'm particularly interested as to why it was not a viable operation and as to where it went wrong. I was always surprised that they could operate out of LHR given the cost/regulatory hurdles. Always thought there was more to this operation than at first met the eye, seemingly it was just badly managed. Interested to hear they operated 3 a/c thought it was only 2, perhaps you could shed more light on that together with the answer to who is Michael Chowdry.. .. .Once again tks. .cheers. .lindburgh

Honiley 21st Mar 2002 17:38

I understand the AOC is only suspended - not actually revoked. . .. .The CAA have apparently given AFX a number of chances to sort themselves out but each time they've failed to do so - on one occasion Bowles didn't even bother turing up for a meeting at Aviation House!!!. .. .From what I've heard around LHR is the engineering side of things is somewhat of a hazard - one of the A/c checks was done in China !!! . .. .Engine monitoring from the flight deck is fine with the usual note making of T's & P's - but all these were discovered just stacked in a cupboard, no-one had bothered to enter them anywhere so no-one has any idea whats happening under those cowlings - I wonder what the engine owners think about that one (assuming they are leased).. .. .Sad news for the 120 staff they employ but I can't help thinking the industry is better off without them..

non sched 21st Mar 2002 17:41

Lindburgh. .The info about three A/C I gleaned from a press release shown below. Michael Chowdry started Atlas Air in the US and died a while back in an airplane crash. He was looking for a UK AOC when he offered to buy AFX and eventually found one elsewhere. It seems AFX would have been better off if they'd accepted his offer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> . .. .British cargo airline Air Freight Express (AFX) has applied with the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to operate flights to a new range of destinations including Moscow, Beirut, Tripoli, Bangkok, Beijing, Karachi, Shanghai, Auckland, Fiji, Melbourne, Perth, Sydney and Tahiti, plus points in North and South America. AFX operates two B747-200 freighters and will be acquiring a third by mid-November.. . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">A man's got to know his limitations </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">

s.lindburgh 21st Mar 2002 17:57

non sched. .. .Many tks for info. Would you happen to know why Chowdry wanted a uk aoc, or indeed a uk based/registered operation? Also why his offer was turned down ?. .. .Honiley, all a bit serious if you ask me. . .. .cheers. .lindburgh

Siddique 21st Mar 2002 20:48

Honily (isnt that a waypont 60 mls south of MAN?. .What is wrong with maintenance in China? The Worlds No2 Airline has it's maint done there and it looks good to me.

screwdriver 22nd Mar 2002 03:57

Ditto, Honiley is obviously talking out of his proverbially.

CR2 22nd Mar 2002 16:43

2 B747-245F G-GAFX, G-INTL. Understand GAFX leased from Boeing, INTL owned by AFX.

Greg Baddeley 22nd Mar 2002 17:08

One at LHR yesterday by BMI's Maintenance Hangar - didn't seem to be active.

greatorex 22nd Mar 2002 20:32

Surely, those four 'Mini Mouse Mats' are drinks coasters????? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />


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