B727 Captains Wanted by Rishworth
 

I have just been browsing through the Agencies Website, as we all do just to see if there is something eyecatching there, and there was. Rishworth need B727 Crews and they will pay you the princely sum of US$ 3,800 per month for that privilege. I mean are they real, having the gall to put that figure there in black and white. I know some of us need jobs, but pleeease don`t insult our professionalism. The B727 may not be the New Generation of aircraft but get real Rishworth. For most pilots I presume it is better to sit put and claim unemployment benefit.
:( :( Very very sad day when it shows that Airlines and now Agencies feel that we are such worthless creatures

Yep, I would do that... but, would I have to be type rated 'n instrument rated 'n have multi aswell ??
an, an, .. would I have to give up the day job ???

Would they look for the cheque EVERY month ??:{

So, £25,000 p.a. is a bad salary is it?

:mad:

Considering that truck drivers in the UK earn at least the same and often more, or that top earning train drivers with Virgin and EWS earn in excess of £60,000 I would say that £25k for the captain of a jet transport is absolute pants.

I take it back.

Wonder if Virgin are hiring.......

and they dont even ask for the train driver to pay for a type rating ;)

It's getting better and better!

Those Pendalino cabs look quite comfy too. :)

Gone are the days when being well paid was being paid enough to be comfortable and a bit more.

Today people only considder themselves well paid if they earn more than the next guy.

Keeping up with the Jones' gone mad.

£25,000 isn't a bad income if one has the lifestyle to match. It may not be enough to Captain a B737 but saying that a train driver receives X amount makes little difference because for every person being paid more than the average pilot, there are 1,000 being paid a lot less.

Perhaps we should point out that while 25,000 may be rubbish for a pilot to haul boxes round the sky?, we trust teachers with our children's current and future well being while paying them a fraction of that amount.

Regards,

DFC

My wife is a teacher in Holland - if she were to work full time she would be paid considerably more than £25k. Teacher's pay scales in England & Wales for 2003

The parallels with a train driver are reasonable as they are both safety critical jobs that carry a significant amount of responsibilty for the safe, economic and comfortable carriage of goods and passengers.

Considering the amount of personal sacrifice, both financially and emotionally to become a pilot, plus the amount of experience required to act as a commander on an aeroplane I would say that 25k is verging on an insult - but then I would say that wouldn't I?

And lets not forget London Tube drivers on a starting salary of circa £30k.

Please remember Rishworth is an NZ agency. Salaries there, are relatively low and always will be.

USD3800?????? Is that for a day or a week?:confused: :}

As doubleu says, it appears that the salary offered is based on NZ rates, if that's what the market dictates then so be it, if they don't get any suitable applicants I assume they'll have to increase the pay.
As with most agencies, they'll quote potential employees the bottom line because that gives them their maximum profit margin, and if you've got the balls to argue, they'll work it up from there.

Its not slave labour, and no one is forcing anyone to apply.

I can tell you one thing guys...
I've been working in Indonesia on 737E for 5250 USD/m, for 3 months, and they've got people through Rishworth for 3800 ( I mean captains) and they let us go...
This job is probably in Indonesia as well. If you get accomodation and transportation, you can spare some 3000 cause life is really cheap there and flying is challenging and the country is beautyfulllll......... Not to speak about women........

Is it or is it not?
 

It is Indonesia indeed... Regardless how you will be able to live there with that salary, most people have "Baggage" back home that carries a certain monetary monthly penalty. These might include wife, kids, schooling, house payments, car payments etc.

This salary offered by Rishworth does not compare with any western standard, but there are countries where cost of living and salaries are a lot lower than say in Europe. Pilots from these lower end markets might actually find the pay "Appealing" rather than "Appalling".

JJ

$3800... Is it take home or before tax?
If that's what you taking home in Indonesia then your lifestyle will be equivalent to JAL or UA senior captain on a 747

Only for as long as you are living in Indonesia, and unlike "JAL or UA senior captains", you won't have the money left over at the end of the year to purchase a condo in another country.

If Rishworth are still operating at the same "skim" level they were a few years ago, chances are they are scalping USD1,500 - 2,000 per pilot, per month.
Not bad for doing ZILCH, once the crews are in place. :mad:

The salary is an insult to ANY pilot, regardless of which country he comes from.
Additionally, Indonesia still experiences terrorist bombings, aimed at foreigners - it is probably only a matter of time before the kidnappings and murders start there.

Emm....

Supply and demand - lots of available pilots, not many jobs......

There are PLENTY of jobs going, and ALL paying far, far more than this trashy salary.

Virgin Trains
 

When you think about it, sitting up the front on a west coast 125 Virgin Pedulino is probably far more comfortable and prestiduous than flying night freight or a low cost.

Coupled with the high technology and the number of passengers you are responsible for, maybe the rail industry is going to leave the airlines behind.

Apart from leaves on the line and the wrong kind of snow, you don't need to worry too much about minima, charlie bravos,slots,diversions,holding or indeed getting lost!

60k sounds good for a few high speed jolly's down to London and the C.V. is in the post!

You even get a better travel deal for your family. Mind you thats not hard to beat as most airlines offer less of a deal than you can get off the net.

Train driving..........Its the future!!!!

Coop & train spotting bear