Pilots to USA
 

USA has given to PIA a list of 10 pilots names who can not fly to USA any other airline has got the list ???:ouch:

Nope, it's secret...

Yep, we have the same restriction, certain pilots are not permitted to operate to the USA. That doesnt include the people who had their FAA licences revoked, a number of whom are presently suing the US Gov.


Mutt.

Yes, and the rest of the world should adopt this same disgraceful treatment to US flightcrew/citizen's.

Where do I sign up for the list? The thought of never going to the US again quite appeals at the moment...

Or you can get on the fleet that doesn't fly to the USA. ;)

Exactly right! Let's start finger-printing US citizens that want to come over here (Europe) on holiday or even just passing through, ban every US citizen that has had an immigration violation or overstay from flying in here and introduce a visa system that would make them stand in mile long queues like we will shortly be doing to go over there! :}

I recently had to travel from Fiji to Europe via LA. Since I'm required to be finger-printed on my next trip through the US, I THREW MY TICKET AWAY and BOUGHT A NEW ONE via Bangkok. But there is absolutely NO WAY that I am giving my prints to any dictator; least of all George Moron Bush! :E

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Suspect you won't be missed....:ugh:

411A- You may of course be correct in that none of us would be missed not going to the USA but might I suggest that the USA would be a far worse place without the resources and technology that you have aquired from the rest of the world. We should all be very aware of potential terrorist threats and we should also adopt a similar atitude to the USA in the treatment of "foreigners" as do you. Withdraw to your own borders and stay there if you like, I for one would not care one little bit.

411A

Tourism will be missed by your government when people avoid visiting this place for above reasons and your airlines suffer big time..

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Knock off the pathetic xenophobic commentaries or this thread will be relegated to Jet Blast and even there may be subject to termination. There is an important issue to be discussed but unfortunately there is always an element who are slightly immature in the thinking department and reduce the thread to little more than a flame war with ill thought out and personal attacks rather than constructive commentary or criticism. :*

I am sorry, I don't understand. Are these people that may not travel to the USA in any capacity or pilots whom may not act as flight crew whilst in/over US?

Foreign airlines are advised that certain crewmembers are not permitted to operate aircraft to the USA. At least in our case, most if not all of the listed crews were trained in the USA and have operated commercial airliners to the USA for numerous years.


Mutt.

Mutt Writes:"most if not all of the listed crews were trained in the USA and have operated commercial airliners to the USA for numerous years. "

And Nail Clippers were never a problem either before 911. I still dont understand how someone could threaten ANYTHING with Nail Clippers. Another typical Bureaucratic answer to the "We dont know the problem or how to cure it, but we can hire more idiots to make it look like we are doing something." OR "The problem cannot be handled without offending someone, therefore............"

I think it’s only fair that we receive the same treatment as we are now meting out to both crew and passengers visiting our country. Kindly remember that we, the people, do not make the policies; we can only vote those that do out of office. We will have that opportunity shortly.

Bug Smasher: Nice post! A lot of us in the UK are also looking forward to the elections for similar reasons. In fact, you guys like Slippery Tone don't you? Hopefully, he'll be available soon!

Well said B Sousa! :ok: That is exactly what happenned there.

On my way to Fiji last year, (in the days before fingerprinting of innocent people) transiting through LAX, I was told to open my suitcase before checking it in. I guess that was so that the highly trained, security experts at the airport could go through my baggage in order to ensure that I wasn't carrying anything of any value with me. I base this deduction on the fact that numerous items went missing from my suitcase; all were worth a few bucks, none were of any threat! :confused:

Personally, in terms of the global air-scare; I would rather do nothing than do the wrong thing. But that's just me, and since I won't be missed over there, neither will my opinions I'm sure... ;)

"Homeland Security" paranoia is over the top
 

But just 9 months from now, Bush and his neo conservative toadies will be voted out of office.
To be sure, the big dull bulk of American voters, also known as the silent majority, have not taken kindly to having been lied to, and to have gone to war under false pretenses.
Hopefully, the next administration will operate at a higher reality level.

hah, dream on Glue Ball. In any case, if US pilots have violated immigration laws of another country, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be banned also.

You are presuming that "ALL" of those listed are guilty of immigration laws!


Mutt.