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Vansin 8th Dec 2003 05:13

KLM B777 Introduction Problems
 
Does anybody have any further details on the 2 KLM B777 machines stranded this past week in CPT and YYZ respectively?
First introductory flight was to YYZ on Nov 05th. They now have 3 in their fleet.

Capt.KAOS 8th Dec 2003 05:18

And there was quite a bit of people vainting on the new KL 777's because of poor air circulation...

Just saw the 3 ol' 747-300's parked near the A4 highway.

lomapaseo 8th Dec 2003 06:05

Capt

Did you mean to say venting or fainting

buzz boy 8th Dec 2003 07:12

Doesn't surprise me!!

KLM and the Dutch couldnt run a p!ss up in a brewery!! its just "not possible"

Rongotai 8th Dec 2003 08:34

Interesting viewpoint. As someone who is neither Dutch nor English but who works in both countries comparing Schipol with Heathrow and the rail services in both countries, I would have rather thought that it was the other way round!

ASRAAM 8th Dec 2003 10:31

As someone who IS English I'm afraid I have to agree with Rongotai on this one!

Crepello 8th Dec 2003 11:13

As someone who's English but lived in NL for 5 years, believe me, buzz boy's got a point. "It's not possible" is from page 1 of 'Customer Service for Nederlanders'. Yes, public transport works well and Schiphol's a superb airport. However the Dutchies, much as I love 'em, still have a long way to go.

Anyways, back to the thread. I've nothing useful to offer on the 777s, though I recall something about air circ problems on early builds. Anyone savvy?

Capt.KAOS 8th Dec 2003 16:22

lomapaseo 'cuse my spelling, it should read fainting.

Problems seemed to be caused by too much air re-circulation (fuel saving?) and too high cabin temperature.

buzz boy having travelled through Heathrow many times, I have to disagree with you. BA at the other gives excellent service.

Dan Winterland 8th Dec 2003 16:30

Not too convinced at the efficiency of the Dutch railways. their habit of running trains in both directions from the same platform can be very confusing - the consequence being that I ended up in Utrect rather than back at Schiphol a couple of weeks ago. Nothing to do with the 8 pints of Dommelsch I'd just consumed of course! :O

vmo 10th Dec 2003 03:59

Now what does all this have to do with the 777?
Must be too Dutch :)
Flt ctrl indication prob.
Messed up schedules etc.
No strange reports on YYZ though.


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