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chris@wda 1st Dec 2003 20:52

Phil Condit resigns.... (?)
 
apparently Phil condit has resigned from Boeing - this is rumour only!!! Anyone able to confirm???

747FOCAL 1st Dec 2003 20:57

Condit resigns; Board names Platt, Stonecipher new leaders
Boeing's board of directors has accepted the resignation of Phil Condit as chairman and chief executive officer. After thorough deliberations the board decided a new company leadership structure is needed; it named Lewis E. Platt as non-executive chairman and Harry C. Stonecipher as president and CEO, effective immediately. Platt and Stonecipher are experienced leaders who are knowledgeable about the company's operations and strategy. Platt, a member of Boeing's board of directors for four years, is a retired chairman of the board, president and CEO of Hewlett-Packard Company. Stonecipher retired from Boeing in 2002 after having worked closely with Condit for five years in roles including vice chairman, president and chief operating officer. A message from Platt and Stonecipher, a My View from Condit, and a news release are available by clicking on the "i" links (from left respectively) below. The video icon links to a video clip of the three men discussing the leadership change.

The only thing bad about the news is who took over. Other than that HAPPY DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 :} :} :} :} :E :E :ok: :ok:

Dave Gittins 1st Dec 2003 21:08

Phil Condit Resigns
 
Can't seem to find the links .............. :confused:

Ric Capucho 1st Dec 2003 21:10

It's now reported on the Beeb, so it must be true.

And Mr Condit was doing such a marvellous job too: 747X blundering, Sonic-Cruiser sulking, loss of JSF contract, 'naughty spying' on Lockheed Martin, 'financial irregularities', fewer orders than Airybus, loss-making space division.

How will Boeing ever do without him, one wonders?

Ric

Bre901 1st Dec 2003 21:13

PR on Boeing's web site

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...r_031201a.html

take a look down to the end of the page, in the "Forward-Looking Information Is Subject to Risk and Uncertainty" box, lots of tanker references ...

747FOCAL 1st Dec 2003 21:29

Now get ready.......here comes the cancel order for the 7E7 and along with that any credibility that Boeing had left with the aviation community. Even somebody as dumb as Phil knows what that means and decided to jump. :mad: My 2 cents anyway :hmm:

Ric Capucho 1st Dec 2003 22:09

Hard to know what to make of the 'Future uncertainty' panel, but I read it as a lawyer covering a nervous arses... more ill in the wind, one wonders? More dirt under the carpet?

Why the exit?

Well, one argument goes that CEOs get fired by the board just before some damaging news slips out. The other argument is that smart boards wait until all the bad news has been published (and gleefully pawed over) before firing the CEO.

Boeing doesn't seem to have a smart board.

Expect more bad news.

Ric

WHBM 1st Dec 2003 23:17

This was the guy who decided that Seattle was the wrong place to do business in. Funny, it worked for them for many years until he decided that. HQ is now somewhere in suburban Chicago.

Possibly the execs not driving down Interstate 5 each morning, and not seeing the Boeing Field flightline as they drove along there, made them lose touch with the business.

His replacement, Stonecipher, was CEO of McDonnell Douglas in its last years before merging with Boeing. MD-11 phasing out, MD-90, MD-95 (later Boeing 717). That's not much of a track record - many of these less than 10 years old aircraft are in the weeds in Arizona.

747FOCAL 2nd Dec 2003 00:59

The inside skinny says that he was told to retire or get the sack. :\

PAXboy 2nd Dec 2003 01:28

One contribution may be that they reckon it's best to change horses now, rather than wait to be told - if the refuelling issue does go badly for them.

747FOCAL 2nd Dec 2003 01:48

I was told it was Phil's push for the 7E7 that alienated him from the board and allowed Harry to push him out. :yuk: Harry, besides the governor, is by far the most unethical person that aviation has ever seen. :*

davethelimey 2nd Dec 2003 19:56

WHBM:

If by "somewhere in suburban Chicago" you mean "smack in the middle, on the riverfront, within stones' throw of Sear's Tower", you are quite correct. ;)

Huck 2nd Dec 2003 22:36

Perhaps Phil can team up with Jim Goodwin (former CEO, UAL) and do some consulting....

Heard the first use of the term "Tankergate" last night on NPR.

car_owner 3rd Dec 2003 06:00

So what ?
 
Condit resigns ... so what ???? You can resign from your position anytime you want.:confused:

Ric Capucho 3rd Dec 2003 13:48

Yep, $18 billion tanker deal frozen for now...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3258116.stm

Oh it gets soooo tiring being right all the time. :-)

Ric

747FOCAL 3rd Dec 2003 20:59

It really makes no difference. The US govt will not buy 18 billion worth of Airbus tankers, it just won't happen. :=

Ric Capucho 3rd Dec 2003 21:10

Nope, but there's now a bloody good chance the UK Government will.

Ric

747FOCAL 3rd Dec 2003 21:23

Since them 767s from BA that they want to use are RR powered I'd say that is a pretty good chance. :E

Lu Zuckerman 3rd Dec 2003 22:52

Stupid question (one among many others).
 
If the UK buys Airbus tankers which model will they buy? Hopefully it is not the A-310.

:E :E

Flight Safety 3rd Dec 2003 23:50

I also noticed this is the "Forward Looking Information" fine print:


production rate increases and decreases (including any reduction in or termination of an aircraft product, including the 717, 757 and 767 models),


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