easyjet pilots to strike??
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Ex GO pilots falling over themselves to get out of the door including, I hear PLB and £1,100 per year for coco pops without milk for crew breakfasts out of STN........What do you think ?!
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I hope this comment is taken the way it is intended. I am not from the airline, but I am acquainted with Mr Webster's past activities, and some of the comments, whilst not completely accurate, give a not entirely unjustified picture of Mr Webster's modus operandi.
This is a very simple transaction which has absolutely nothing to do with company loyalty, the "easy life-style" etc. The company needs pilots to fly the aeroplanes, ie. what many members of many management groups forget, the front-line of their business......in order to raise the revenue, to justify giving themselves a £10m bonus (regardless of how much each person will get). Pilots and engineers are the most important ingredients of a successful airline, followed very closely by cabin crew and ground staff (and this comment in no way diminishes their importance, but lets face it, you cannot operate aircraft without licenced pilots and licenced engineers).
Pilots and engineers are far more valuable than any airline seems to realise these days, particularly as they are becoming less and less fussy about people doing their own type-ratings to save them money and so on! (Incidentally, I think the engineers aren't asking for enough!)
Staff can screw up a booking, baggage handlers can send bags to the Outer Mongolia, (Hmmmm? I can feel a new route coming on!), cabin crew can be rude to the punters, management can screw up their manning requirements.......easyjet will struggle on. But crash just once.......!
May I offer this to management? Stop mucking about, pay your pilots and engineers properly, be fussier about employing people who do their own type-ratings, and stop trying to get people to pay for their own type-ratings through some silly scheme which is actually a way to get cheaper pilots! If they go on strike, you have only yourselves to blame! Get your noses out of the trough as well!
Incidentally, as a punter going into Aberdeen one evening, I was absolutely shocked to hear a really concerned foreign voice, in broken English over the 'easycom' telling me to fasten my seatbelts, followed by a similar request five minutes later followed by ....and I quote! "its going to be bloody windy". Musing on the cross-wind limits of a 737, I wondered if the pilot (the Captain I thought), was at any stage concerned about the outcome of the landing. He certainly sounded as if he was. If that was the case, why were we subjected to the most outrageously bumpy approach to 34 at Aberdeen, terminating in an amazingly soft touch-down, followed by two crew standing on the brakes to stop us before W5...... when we could all have landed safely at Edinburgh?......
This is a very simple transaction which has absolutely nothing to do with company loyalty, the "easy life-style" etc. The company needs pilots to fly the aeroplanes, ie. what many members of many management groups forget, the front-line of their business......in order to raise the revenue, to justify giving themselves a £10m bonus (regardless of how much each person will get). Pilots and engineers are the most important ingredients of a successful airline, followed very closely by cabin crew and ground staff (and this comment in no way diminishes their importance, but lets face it, you cannot operate aircraft without licenced pilots and licenced engineers).
Pilots and engineers are far more valuable than any airline seems to realise these days, particularly as they are becoming less and less fussy about people doing their own type-ratings to save them money and so on! (Incidentally, I think the engineers aren't asking for enough!)
Staff can screw up a booking, baggage handlers can send bags to the Outer Mongolia, (Hmmmm? I can feel a new route coming on!), cabin crew can be rude to the punters, management can screw up their manning requirements.......easyjet will struggle on. But crash just once.......!
May I offer this to management? Stop mucking about, pay your pilots and engineers properly, be fussier about employing people who do their own type-ratings, and stop trying to get people to pay for their own type-ratings through some silly scheme which is actually a way to get cheaper pilots! If they go on strike, you have only yourselves to blame! Get your noses out of the trough as well!
Incidentally, as a punter going into Aberdeen one evening, I was absolutely shocked to hear a really concerned foreign voice, in broken English over the 'easycom' telling me to fasten my seatbelts, followed by a similar request five minutes later followed by ....and I quote! "its going to be bloody windy". Musing on the cross-wind limits of a 737, I wondered if the pilot (the Captain I thought), was at any stage concerned about the outcome of the landing. He certainly sounded as if he was. If that was the case, why were we subjected to the most outrageously bumpy approach to 34 at Aberdeen, terminating in an amazingly soft touch-down, followed by two crew standing on the brakes to stop us before W5...... when we could all have landed safely at Edinburgh?......
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Just the last paragraph...
Well Mary, that was a pretty encompassing first post. I will restrict myself to the contents of your last paragraph.
A foreign accent - is that a bad thing? There are pilots from all over flying for easy - and lots of other airlines too. I have flown for Japanese and Swiss ones, having pilots from Mexico to Greece as well as UK. Believe me, all those guys could fly. On the other hand the odd plum in the mouth guy has cocked up.
Bumpy approach to Aberdeen - in my experience this happens very often - the fact that they put it down nicely indicated that they had it under control, so don't knock it. Whether it would have been any less bumpy into EDI is by no means certain either. On a bumpy approach the pilots are earning their pay - for you Mary. You can't guarantee a bump free ride and any airline that diverted for rough but in-limits weather would soon be out of customers.
Two crew on the brakes - how do you know? Firstly this is completely contra to procedures and secondly you can get all the brakes you need just from one side. You didn't say what the runway conditions were like - It is a good idea to get the ship slowed down fast in rough conditions especially if wet.
A foreign accent - is that a bad thing? There are pilots from all over flying for easy - and lots of other airlines too. I have flown for Japanese and Swiss ones, having pilots from Mexico to Greece as well as UK. Believe me, all those guys could fly. On the other hand the odd plum in the mouth guy has cocked up.
Bumpy approach to Aberdeen - in my experience this happens very often - the fact that they put it down nicely indicated that they had it under control, so don't knock it. Whether it would have been any less bumpy into EDI is by no means certain either. On a bumpy approach the pilots are earning their pay - for you Mary. You can't guarantee a bump free ride and any airline that diverted for rough but in-limits weather would soon be out of customers.
Two crew on the brakes - how do you know? Firstly this is completely contra to procedures and secondly you can get all the brakes you need just from one side. You didn't say what the runway conditions were like - It is a good idea to get the ship slowed down fast in rough conditions especially if wet.
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In gusty or strong winds, the increments to the final approach speed, plus some pilots' mis-conception of them, and the difficulty of bleeding speed accurately close to the threshold whilst keeping the fan speed up, often make it very difficult to put the aircraft down for a variety of specific reasons, one of which is that the aircraft is flying in an awkward shallow part of the drag curve.
That's why bumpy approaches often precede very soft touchdowns, often quite deep into the runway. ABZ is relatively short for a 737, so your bumpy/soft/heavy braking experience is typical.
Soft landings precisely on target require a ruthless attitude to closing the thrust levers and a very high standard of handling and judgement to make one compressed flare at just the right time. Easy to do with ten knots down the runway at LHR, but not so simple with twenty across at ABZ. (If you want a 'top tip', it's to carry out this brief but very accurate flare, followed by a reduction of about a degree in pitch attitude just as the main wheels will touch).
Remember, though, that the important thing about landings should be to put the thing down positively in the right place at the right speed. Any other technique may put a smile on your face, but it's not strictly what you're paid for...
Regarding foreign pilots, I have no problem, so long as they can cope with the vagaries of the Boeing manuals and QRH at a time of stress. I enjoy a very good command of English, my mother tongue, and still find parts of the QRH awkward and indistinct...
That's why bumpy approaches often precede very soft touchdowns, often quite deep into the runway. ABZ is relatively short for a 737, so your bumpy/soft/heavy braking experience is typical.
Soft landings precisely on target require a ruthless attitude to closing the thrust levers and a very high standard of handling and judgement to make one compressed flare at just the right time. Easy to do with ten knots down the runway at LHR, but not so simple with twenty across at ABZ. (If you want a 'top tip', it's to carry out this brief but very accurate flare, followed by a reduction of about a degree in pitch attitude just as the main wheels will touch).
Remember, though, that the important thing about landings should be to put the thing down positively in the right place at the right speed. Any other technique may put a smile on your face, but it's not strictly what you're paid for...
Regarding foreign pilots, I have no problem, so long as they can cope with the vagaries of the Boeing manuals and QRH at a time of stress. I enjoy a very good command of English, my mother tongue, and still find parts of the QRH awkward and indistinct...
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For Mary: It is amazing how many baby-smooth landings result from a horribly jiggly approach; you fight the a/c for five minutes with the adrenoline out of the plot for five minutes then achieve a squeeky-smooth touchdown. Must be down to the concentration involved.
For the moderators: Has this thread not run its course? The strike is not going to happen, the vote is over and the thread can only serve to feed the share speculators with false information. Time for bed?
For the moderators: Has this thread not run its course? The strike is not going to happen, the vote is over and the thread can only serve to feed the share speculators with false information. Time for bed?
