How Does One Lose All Navigation in an A330 - Incident

[phantom menace]

Originally Posted by dixi188

I flew with a captain that had flown DC-8 freighters. One day, eastbound across the Atlantic the F/E turned both INS units off by accident instead of the HF sets.
The FO said "What are we going to do now"?
Capt. said, "Follow that white line in front".

Ha ha, excellent or using the TRK on the flight plan and getting the old CRP 5 out and bingo.

[HOVIS]

There used to be an FMGC reset procedure that required the FMGC CBs to be tripped for 20 minutes before each flight. Something to do with the memory only capable of holding 200 or so waypoints. If it wasn't reset then the aircraft Nav system would freeze in flt. Older model A330s.

[Feathered]

Originally Posted by tubby linton

Airbus still have the ability to tune conventional navaids through the RMP but that wouldn’t help in oceanic airspace.

Any particular reason why reinitializing the INS with a current GPS position (or an upcoming waypoint) is not available, just in case the NAV UPDATE is pressed twice accidentally?

[Ollie Onion]

I did it once on an A320, was putting in a fix reference and accidentally dropped it in the NAV UPDATE field with a bit of a spasm that hit the button twice, MAP disappeared and Captain swore a bit. We selected HDG, realised we were out of ALL VOR/DME range and after a minute of wondering what to do simply asked ATC to vector us over the closest WPT and tell us when we were crossing, another NAV UPDATE at that point and off we went :-). I bought the beers that night,

[Flying_Scotsman]

IRET at Cottesmore having come from Bruggen entered E rather than W in INU. Not happy

[fdr]

Originally Posted by Bosi72

Should've brought Garmin Aera 500 as a backup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCWbjsynDZ0

In the MOG, that is a thing of beauty! The boy actually knows what he is doing. Standard? Nup. Safe? As safe as the other options... So, there is a laundry list of violations, but, darned if it isn't nice to see someone who can actually fly an aircraft. It wasn't unsafe, it was.... pretty smoothly flown. Sure he got a but tight in on the 270, but it was flown smoothly and with full awareness of his aircraft state, something we seem to be missing nowadays.

Go Around in The MOG

[Big Pistons Forever]

Originally Posted by fdr

In the MOG, that is a thing of beauty! The boy actually knows what he is doing. Standard? Nup. Safe? As safe as the other options... So, there is a laundry list of violations, but, darned if it isn't nice to see someone who can actually fly an aircraft. It wasn't unsafe, it was.... pretty smoothly flown. Sure he got a but tight in on the 270, but it was flown smoothly and with full awareness of his aircraft state, something we seem to be missing nowadays.


Go Around in The MOG

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should......

[Flyhighfirst]

Originally Posted by Bosi72

Should've brought Garmin Aera 500 as a backup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCWbjsynDZ0

Just WOW! “We’ll just do a 360” at about 600 feet to finish levelling out on runway about 1/4 mile finals. I knew aciation was bad in Africa but never thought it would be that crazy.

[Flyhighfirst]

Originally Posted by fdr

In the MOG, that is a thing of beauty! The boy actually knows what he is doing. Standard? Nup. Safe? As safe as the other options... So, there is a laundry list of violations, but, darned if it isn't nice to see someone who can actually fly an aircraft. It wasn't unsafe, it was.... pretty smoothly flown. Sure he got a but tight in on the 270, but it was flown smoothly and with full awareness of his aircraft state, something we seem to be missing nowadays.


Go Around in The MOG

What is wrong with just offsetting and climbing back up to try it again. There was nothing safe about that. Cowboy attitude of get it on the ground as quick as we can. Don’t give a damn about the pax behind.

[Seat4A]

I didn't see this posted upthread

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[John Marsh]

5Y-MWM is a freighter. The choice of flight path was probably influenced by the SAM hazard in the area.

[JanetFlight]

Originally Posted by Flyhighfirst

Don’t give a damn about the pax behind.

Cargo btw ... Jesus man, this is MGQ, nothing out of the ordinary here, unless you prefer to get shot... nice memories of good ol times with the mighty 727 flyin for Transafrik and company ... enjoy life

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[1southernman]

Never got shot at in the air, that I'm aware of, and I wouldn't have done it at the airline (pax) but I don't see anything but a crew in their element, decent vis, in control and having fun...Probably not their first time...The old dive n drive or a circling in min vis would be pushing it more..

[1southernman]

Plumbed the 27 for 7 mos. Never got to fly it but saw some of best the flying of an airplane.while sitting sidesaddle...Guys with years of experience in the 3 seats...